Hamas AND ‘pro-Palestine’ protesters unite in wanting war to destroy Israel

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This: Hamas enacted the worst pogrom since the Holocaust to prevent peace, and the protests around the world aren’t really about the plight of Gazans now but the existence of Israel.

Consider the lines drawn.

Hamas AND ‘pro-Palestine’ protesters unite in wanting war to destroy Israel

As Israel’s necessary drive to eliminate Hamas proceeds, everyone’s motives are growing ever more clear: The terrorists wanted their Oct. 7 atrocities to set the Middle East ablaze to derail the prospects of Arab-Israeli peace — and the “pro-Palestinian” protesters across the West really want Israel eliminated.

Hamas’ intent was obvious to us from the start; even The New York Times woke up, with a report last week that “in the bloody arithmetic of Hamas’s leaders, the carnage is not the regrettable outcome of a big miscalculation. Quite the opposite, they say: It is the necessary cost of a great accomplishment — the shattering of the status quo and the opening of a new, more volatile chapter in their fight against Israel.”

And that the intent was to “set off a sustained conflict that ends any pretense of coexistence among Israel, Gaza and the countries around them.”

Indeed, The Washington Post now reports that “Hamas envisioned deeper attack in Israel on Oct. 7,” as its leaders “intended to strike a blow of historic proportions with the expectation that their actions would compel an overwhelming Israeli response.”

https://nypost.com/2023/11/12/opini...sters-unite-in-wanting-war-to-destroy-israel/

 

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Perhaps 2,000 gathered in Columbus Circle, chanting “We don’t want a Jewish state. We want ’48!” — meaning Palestine before Israel’s founding — as well as “from the river to the sea,” more code for destroying the Jewish state.

Oh, and: “Settlers, settlers go back home! Palestine is ours alone!”

Funny: Most Israelis today are the descendants not of Europeans who went there in the wake of the Holocaust, but of Jews who’d dwelt in the Middle East since forever, many driven out of surrounding nations after 1948.

The Arab world was finally becoming reconciled to Israel’s existence, with real peace dawning.

 

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Another BS media headline. Israel doesn’t need to defend their justified attack on Gaza.

ALL those civilian deaths are the responsibility of the Hamas terrorists who use them to gaslight media morons into handwringing fits of antisemitism.

Netanyahu defends record on civilian casualties in Gaza: ‘battle of civilization against barbarism’

“We want all the civilians to be moved out of harm’s way and Hamas is doing everything in their power to keep them in harm’s way,” he told CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday.

Of course, talking to CNN talk show host is like talking to a wall. Heck, that's an insult to a wall which displays more intelligence than CNN hosts.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/12/news/...ans-battle-of-civilization-against-barbarism/

 

[Concart]

I believe that people deserve a homeland. and an opportunity for a better life. Is that pro-Palestinian, or is that just being a decent human being? It's rhetorical. Don't answer.

 

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I believe that people deserve a homeland.

Strawman argument ignoring the topic.

and an opportunity for a better life.

Strawman; who says people don't deserve an opportunity of a better life?

More topic avoidance.

Is that pro-Palestinian, or is that just being a decent human being? It's rhetorical. Don't answer.

It's pontificating dumb strawman arguments and avoiding the topic.

Clue for the clueless: there never was a nation called Palestine. They were territories. The nations of Jordan, Syria, Iraq and yes, Israel were carved out from the TERRITORIES. All who lived in them, Jews and Arabs, would be Palestinians.

Fact: Arabs do not want a separate Palestinian nation. They want the eradication of the Jewish State.

Only terrorist loving morons and clueless progressive hacks think otherwise.

You really are the most repugnant, lying leftist progressive I have ever seen.

 

[Bigdog]

I believe that people deserve a homeland. and an opportunity for a better life. Is that pro-Palestinian, or is that just being a decent human being? It's rhetorical. Don't answer.

The Ottoman Empire surrendered all that land to the Allies. Those people are reneging on the terms of surrender.

Jordan was part of the Palestine mandate, too.

 

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The Ottoman Empire surrendered all that land to the Allies. Those people are reneging on the terms of surrender.

Jordan was part of the Palestine mandate, too.

So in other words, outside imperialists and colonialists defined the fate of the people living there for millenniums, no wonder the whole area is f*cked up

 

[Bigdog]

So in other words, outside imperialists and colonialists defined the fate of the people living there for millenniums, no wonder the whole area is f*cked up

No, the area was always wracked by wars and invasions. The Ottoman Empire was the last to conquer those people and determine their fate. The Ottomans lost ww1.

The Austro Hungarian Empire suffered a similar fate when they lost ww1. You never whine about it being cut up by the victors into this ...

 

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No, the area was always wracked by wars and invasions. The Ottoman Empire was the last to conquer those people and determine their fate. The Ottomans lost ww1.

The Austro Hungarian Empire suffered a similar fate when they lost ww1. You never whine about it being cut up by the victors into this ...

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What the hell are you talking about?

The nation states of the Middle East were created up by European powers after WWI, they drew the map, which is why today such as the Kurds are spread out across varying nations

 

[Bigdog]

What the hell are you talking about?

The nation states of the Middle East were created up by European powers after WWI, they drew the map, which is why today such as the Kurds are spread out across varying nations

Yes, they did not exist. All that land was conquered by the Ottoman Empire which existed for hundreds of years, and ended when they lost ww1.

 

[ExpressLane]

I believe that people deserve a homeland. and an opportunity for a better life. Is that pro-Palestinian, or is that just being a decent human being? It's rhetorical. Don't answer.

Gaza is on beautiful Mediterranean coast only 40 miles from Tel Aviv . May id the Palestinians had developed Gaza with the billions that they were given instead of making weapons Gaza would be a vacation destination live Tel Aviv. Israeli soldiers died to obtain the Gaza Strip and then Israel gave it to the Palestinians for a home land.

 

[Concart]

So in other words, outside imperialists and colonialists defined the fate of the people living there for millenniums, no wonder the whole area is f*cked up

The Shah was an evil bastard, but by God, he was OUR evil bastard. And Saudi Arabia is a holy land? Fuck it, we need some Air Force bases! We have used the Middle East as our lab and our playground with zero respect for their culture or religion. The LAST people that should be passing judgement on the Palestinians are these asshole fuckstick trumpers. Period.

 

[AProudLefty]

This: Hamas enacted the worst pogrom since the Holocaust to prevent peace, and the protests around the world aren’t really about the plight of Gazans now but the existence of Israel.

Consider the lines drawn.

Hamas AND ‘pro-Palestine’ protesters unite in wanting war to destroy Israel

As Israel’s necessary drive to eliminate Hamas proceeds, everyone’s motives are growing ever more clear: The terrorists wanted their Oct. 7 atrocities to set the Middle East ablaze to derail the prospects of Arab-Israeli peace — and the “pro-Palestinian” protesters across the West really want Israel eliminated.

Hamas’ intent was obvious to us from the start; even The New York Times woke up, with a report last week that “in the bloody arithmetic of Hamas’s leaders, the carnage is not the regrettable outcome of a big miscalculation. Quite the opposite, they say: It is the necessary cost of a great accomplishment — the shattering of the status quo and the opening of a new, more volatile chapter in their fight against Israel.”

And that the intent was to “set off a sustained conflict that ends any pretense of coexistence among Israel, Gaza and the countries around them.”

Indeed, The Washington Post now reports that “Hamas envisioned deeper attack in Israel on Oct. 7,” as its leaders “intended to strike a blow of historic proportions with the expectation that their actions would compel an overwhelming Israeli response.”

https://nypost.com/2023/11/12/opini...sters-unite-in-wanting-war-to-destroy-israel/

Opinions are not current events.

 

[Grokmaster]

I believe that people deserve a homeland. and an opportunity for a better life. Is that pro-Palestinian, or is that just being a decent human being? It's rhetorical. Don't answer.

They had one, but refused it, in 1948, opting to attack fledgling Israel instead.

Jordan and Syria have their land.

Israel is the NATIVE HOMELAND of the Israelis.


There has never been a "palestinian state", and it's their own fault.


Jordan tried to let them settle there , on land that was offered them in 1948.


Look up Black September, to see how that worked out.


No one can get along with the so-called Palestinians.

 

[Grokmaster]

What the hell are you talking about?

The nation states of the Middle East were created up by European powers after WWI, they drew the map, which is why today such as the Kurds are spread out across varying nations

1948, not after WW1. and Israel is the NATIVE HOMELAMD OF THE JEWS...since about 4,000 BC or longer.

The indigenous arabs (what the "palestinians" were called then) refused to the land they were given...and it was taken by JORDAN, and SYRIA.

 

[Truth Detector]

The Ottoman Empire surrendered all that land to the Allies. Those people are reneging on the terms of surrender.

Jordan was part of the Palestine mandate, too.

Correct. A land, I would add, conquered by many other empires over the history. Yet, one that was never a nation.

 

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So in other words, outside imperialists and colonialists defined the fate of the people living there for millenniums, no wonder the whole area is f*cked up

The whole area isn't "fucked" up. Just those controlled by terrorists and terrorist propagandists. If you had a brain, which you don't, you could comprehend the obvious.

 

[Truth Detector]

The Shah was an evil bastard, but by God, he was OUR evil bastard. And Saudi Arabia is a holy land? Fuck it, we need some Air Force bases! We have used the Middle East as our lab and our playground with zero respect for their culture or religion. The LAST people that should be passing judgement on the Palestinians are these asshole fuckstick trumpers. Period.

What a massive pile of lie filled bullshit. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like an ignorant moron.

 

[Truth Detector]

Opinions are not current events.

It is a current event halfwit. If you had a brain, you could comprehend the obvious. But instead, you like looking like an uninformed, uneducated dumb troll.

 

[Truth Detector]

They had one, but refused it, in 1948, opting to attack fledgling Israel instead.

Jordan and Syria have their land.

Israel is the NATIVE HOMELAND of the Israelis.


There has never been a "palestinian state", and it's their own fault.


Jordan tried to let them settle there , on land that was offered them in 1948.


Look up Black September, to see how that worked out.


No one can get along with the so-called Palestinians.

Correct. But your facts fall on deaf ears and tightly closed eyes. Leftists seem to prefer ignorance and stupidity over intelligence and facts.