DId the Maine shooter have the right to bear an AR-15?

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For the record, I believe rights can be limited if Due Process is first granted, but that means the right is not absolute.

I also believe that rights must be balanced when they conflict.

The right of self defense is absolute. No court can take that away. No oppressive government can take that away.

There is no right to murder.

 

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the right of the people plural shall not be abridged - yes

individuals can have rights restricted so long as we follow due process against said individual.

otherwise prisoners in jail would be packing

Some prisoners in jail ARE packing.

 

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That guy should have been held in a State Mental Hospital without access to any kind of weapons.

Government failed to keep him out of society, that's on them.

Before he went crazy he was allowed to have guns, the government turning him loose on society after him saying the things he did is their fault.

Also the things he DID while in the Army.

 

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It seems like there were so many warnings w/ this guy.

It's really a textbook case for where it's appropriate to limit the right to own a gun.

Sorry dude, the right of self defense is absolute.
The right to murder is not.

 

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Who cares what you understand? What did he DO?

Yes unless you DO something to warrant having it suspended

No conditions. Remember the Democrats can 'warrant' just such a thing simply because you're a conservative. This is where he is going with his argument.

 

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So the right is not absolute?

The right of self defense is absolute.

 

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Enlighten us on what the "clear bright line" is?

Go read the Constitution. RQAA.

 

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Did he have a right to due process before being released?

Nonsensical question. Try English. It works better.

 

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He TOLD people he was considering mass murder. He went and picked his guns up from his brothers house with that intent.

So? Murder is not a right. Neither is theft.

 

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So, should people be allowed to own an ICBM?

Yes.

 

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Its the crazy people having easy access to weapons capable of mass killings.

Most any weapon is capable of mass killings. Want to stop them? Shoot back.

 

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Several of the barrel strokers on this forum will tell you ‘yes’. They will also tell you that all the deaths from those firearms are acceptable collateral damage in order to possess that right.

Murder is not a right.
Your hoplophobia is YOUR problem. You cannot justify taking guns away.

Shoot back.

 

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I know, I like to get them to show their colors every so often.

You don't like red, white, and blue?

 

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All gun murderers were legal gun owners. Until they weren’t.

Blatant lie.

 

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Why do mass shootings of this scale almost always involve semiautomatic assault rifles with high capacity ammunition mags, rather than shotguns, revolvers, bolt action hunting rifles?

A high capacity ammunition mag is a battlefield innovation, intended to inflict higher casually rates on the enemy. They have no legitimate civilian use.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.

 

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It’s mystifying that you’ve been schooled time and again that there is no such thing as an absolute right.

Yet, you do believe “vehicles cannot be necessary” in a modern society, too. So, there’s that demonstration of your cognitive abilities.

Self defense is an absolute right. It cannot be taken away, even by the most oppressive of governments.
Murder is not a right.

 

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So that the crazy person can kill a lot of people before he is apprehended or escapes.

Shoot back.

 

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I somewhat agree with Franklin, but there is a ballance.

There is. Shoot back.

 

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Did Jefferson believe in liberty for the originals Americans? The enslaved black people brought here? Women?

Asking people to speak for the dead is pointless.

 

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You are a fucking idiot.....he was known to be mentally ill

Remember, Democrats consider any conservative to be 'mentally ill', and would use that to try to take your weapons.

Why cant known sex offenders go to play grounds? Live next door to a Elm school?

They do.