Rep. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House

QP! said:
Here is the Coles Notes...
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well, the lie about Medicare and SS is just more old demmycrat fake news......hating the killing of unborn children and thinking marriage should last for life are hardly negative qualities except to those of you who hate children and women.....what are the bad parts?.....
 
QP! said:
Yes he speaks very polite and polished but his actions, which i highlighted above speak to hypocrite, deeply hateful person who does not believe in the Constitution one iota.

He wants a theocratic republic much like what the Taliban have in Afghanistan or exists in Saudi or Iran.

That makes him a horrible speaker.
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why should you lying about him make him a bad speaker?.....
 
QP! said:
Unlike your opinion on Hakeem i can actually quote the hateful things Johnson has said. I can cite his actions to invalidate the Constitution. So NOT just my opinion.
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to be fair, only simple minded folks like yourself think they are hateful things.........you can only lie about his actions......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why should you lying about him make him a bad speaker?.....
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As my brother says "I water my garden with liberal tears." I LOVE it that liberals don't like conservative MAGA Speaker Johnson. They could have had left of moderate McCarthy but they chose to stab him in the back for working with them. Now they have a MAGA Conservative,

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The pachys will sabotage the budget process no matter what idiot that they put up front.

They're not going to get any legislation looked at, much less passed.

So we watch this Johnson asshole make a ludicrous spectacle of himself and wait for better times.
Maybe they'll come and maybe they won't.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The pachys will sabotage the budget process no matter what idiot that they put up front.

They're not going to get any legislation looked at, much less passed.

So we watch this Johnson asshole make a ludicrous spectacle of himself and wait for better times.
Maybe they'll come and maybe they won't.
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Johnson could be the best thing for the Democrats in Nov. 2024.
 
QP! said:
Great.

We continue to see the more Maggot Republicans that are pushed by their party, the more the citizens move their votes away from them leaving them only to their shitstain base.
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If more states gerry mandered by the GOP lose that edge, the next set elections will be real interesting.
 
Taichiliberal said:
I have him on the ignore list, but I keep forgetting to ban him outright on any thread I start.
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That can be done retroactively by PMing a mod with the request. It's best to include a reason, but not required.

It's also a good way to help reveal socks: Ban one of the suspected socks but not the other and see if they show. Violating a thread ban is a temp ban offense.
 
LurchAddams said:
How inappropriate to take your political beliefs into the office! I learned at one of my last jobs that when you get into a discussion about politics and the other person (in this case he was maga anti-vaxxer) it never ends well. To be fair - he brought it up, he wanted me to read RFK Jr.'s anti-vax book that he believed was totally factual. I was not in my right mind at the time or I would have thanked him and claimed to "get to it when I can".

You cannot argue with the maga-indoctrinated.
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Nope. No point in even trying. I figure that the gods put them here as examples of how not to be. And so we'd have something to laugh at when life was kicking us around. :rofl2:
 
Doc Dutch said:
Johnson could be the best thing for the Democrats in Nov. 2024.
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Esp. if he starts exhibiting his MAGAT agenda and/or trying to get his religious beliefs turned into legislation. He already did that with his denial of climate change and trying to take energy-saving assistance away from the American people. The MAGATs lost bigly last year on the abortion issue. Johnson could very well bring them a repeat.
 
As if most of us Reagan/Goldwater Republicans didn't already know the GOP was D-E-A-D.

https://time.com/6329868/mike-johnsons-election-end-of-reagans-gop/
Mike Johnson’s Election Marks the End of Reagan’s GOP
“MAGA is ascendant,” crowed Rep. Matt Gaetz (R., FL) on October 25. He had reason to be happy. After weeks of chaos, the House Republicans have settled on the unknown Rep. Mike Johnson (R., LA) to replace Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R., CA). The well-liked Johnson is thoroughly in line with nationalist-populist Republicans such as Gaetz, who engineered McCarthy’s fall. The episode was another sign that the GOP is no longer Ronald Reagan’s party. It is Donald Trump’s.

Since Reagan left office 35 years ago, the GOP has defined itself negatively. The coalition comes together not based on an affirmative program but in protest over someone else’s. The party's greatest moments have been acts of rebuke.

First came the election of 1994. Republicans won control of Congress for the first time in 40 years in a rejection of Bill Clinton’s health care plan, tax hikes, and liberal social views. George W. Bush ran in 2000 to “restore integrity to the White House,” a subtle dig at the character of his otherwise popular predecessor.

Things became more difficult for Republicans as affluent voters and voters with advanced degrees, along with Millennial and eventually Gen Z voters, turned away from social conservatism. The failures of the Bush administration didn’t make things easier. Nor did the lackluster presidential campaigns of John McCain and Mitt Romney....

...his was not because voters loved the GOP. It was because voters saw the GOP as the way to block Democratic overreach. Obama was a gift to the Republican Party: a limitless source of conservative outrage that powered the party’s candidates to ever greater heights.

Obama and his advisers believed that the right mix of Progressive policies would defeat populist resistance. “My hope is that if the American people send a message” to Republicans, Obama told Rolling Stone in 2012, and “they suffer some losses in this next election, that there’s going to be some self-reflection going on—that it might break the fever.” The message was never sent. The “fever” behind grassroots rejection of Obama’s presidency did not break. It intensified. It assumed the form of Trump....

...Republicans and conservatives must cope with the social and economic conditions of our time, not Reagan’s. They must strengthen the best aspects of our society and culture while ameliorating the worst. That could mean adopting new attitudes toward the global economy and cultural institutions while unraveling the unaccountable bureaucratic structure of the administrative state.

What it cannot mean—what it can never mean—is abandoning the American tradition of liberty under law to satisfy the ego of a single man.
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Damocles said:
The Speaker is a Constitutional Attorney, that's a benefit I had no idea of when he was elected. While I think he's an upgrade from McCarthy I still think that it was just Gaetz trying to make Governor Points that caused all of this and I do not, yet, forgive Buck for voting with "MAGA" Democrats and Gaetz to throw chaos into the floor at a time when less chaos was needed.
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Kenneth CheeseBro and John Eastman are both cited as Constitutional Attorneys and they both used that knowledge deliberately to break the law and try and destroy the Constitution.

Mike Johnson did the same, from within the House and working with the State of Texas in trying to destroy the Constitution and over turn the 2020 election. That is far worse than simply being a 'denier' for reasons of trying to win an election. He has demonstrated that to him, the Constitution and laws are something you ignore if you think you can get away with it.
 
Damocles said:
-He tried to 'overturn" an election in the same way that Democrats in 2016, 2000, and 2004 used the electoral vote count to challenge the election results. While I do agree that this kind of childish tantrum is not something that deserves emulation, it is not unprecedented in even recent history nor is it done as often by Republicans as it has historically been done by Democrats with nary a squeak from QP!, because folks only point out this kind of thing when they wouldn't have held their breath in a tantrum themselves.

-Shocking that a conservative thinks that way, ay? What you don't point out is that the objections come from the time he worked as an attorney for a group that was specifically against that... he was literally hired to say the things and did his job.

-Oh noooeess! He doesn't want babies killed in the womb! (Someday we can go through what I think, but most old school here know I am for an entirely different thing that would also not force women to carry babies to term). I think both sides are shortsighted and think only of short term or present issues and not of a long term solution especially for this issue.

-He understands that growth in such programs as Social Security and Medicare needs to be controlled. Curtailing growth is not cutting anything, this pretends that cutting growth from 5% to 3% is a "cut in spending" even though it increases spending. This is the kind of math that makes folks distrust y'all.

-He thinks it should be more difficult to obtain a divorce. I disagree with him, but there is nobody in the world that I have found that I agree with on everything.

-Many folks are skeptical, not of the existence of warming but of the predictions of what it will do as even most "skeptics" understand that human activity contributes to warming, including quite a few scientists. I know you'll bring up the 98% myth, but it has been debunked and includes folks that think warming is true but also that it is not an emergency, and it is just deliberate ignorance and gaslighting that makes folks continue to repeat it. Being skeptical is actually part of science as a process, slavishly agreeing with a misunderstood (and not part of scientific process) "consensus" is not.
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I am not going to break down your stream of lies.

I will just point at the NO, IN FACT, what he did in 2020 to over turn the election WAS NOT the same as what the Dem's did EVER.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
but you see, the issue isn't whether you should prefer Jeffries over Johnson.......the issue is you are idiots for complaining you got Johnson instead of McCarthy...
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There is no idiocy in complaining about that.

I have explained this before but i will again try to dumb it down for you.

Israel wants Hamas gone and if what follows after is worse, that DOES NOT mean Israel should have gave Hamas support to keep them in power.

The US and West want Putin gone, and if what follows is worse, that DOES NOT mean the US and West should have gave Putin support to keep him in power.


A person who is not stupid understands that if Hamas or Putin were given UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT to stay in power by Israel or the US and West respectively then they OWN THE ACTIONS Hamas and Putin do after.

Everyone, and i mean EVERYONE, would blame Israel, the US and West for every bad act they did asking 'why did you support them getting unchecked power'.


McCarthy to get Gaetz and the crazies on the right to support him in the first speaker vote had to give them ways to CHECK his power, should he go against them and the deal they struck. He was refusing to discuss any ability for the Dems to have any power sharing or any check on his actions of powers and NO PARTY should give the leader of the other party unchecked power, based on their votes.
 
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