Democrats Splinter Over Israel as the Young, Diverse Left Rages at Biden

Nordberg said:
The fact is Israel has been dominating and abusing Palestinians for many decades. Now they are bombing them and destroying their homes and infrastructure. What a great way to end M.E. violence and create the basics for peace.
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Let's see... Which of the two built a massive wall to keep the other from running terrorists into their territory who were killing lots of civilians? Which of the two regularly launches rockets at random targets within the other's territory unprovoked? Which of the two has a for shit economy with most of their population living in abject poverty? Which of the two has tried to stage revolutions and overthrow their neighbors?
 
LurchAddams said:
How do you sort out the good Palestinian citizens from the ones who want to kill Israelis? I don't cheer for the oppression of anyone. I'd just love for someone to come up with a solution. Carter tried, Clinton made some headway that collapsed in the Arab Spring. Then Jarod was going to solve everything under trump <-- sarcastic on my part as far as Jarod goes. But my point is - many have tried for a peaceful solution. I don't know what the solution is.
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Israel knows exactly who the Hamas leaders are. The vetting process for everyone else is very do-able.

But, here we are. After being treated the way they have been, most of them their entire lives, why WOULDN’T any Palestinian hate the Israelis?
 
domer76 said:
Stop treating the Palestinian people like 2nd class humans or animals. That’s a good first step.
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A 'Palestinian' (i.e. Arab Muslim) is a permanent member of the Israeli Supreme Court.

Is there any country in the Arab world that has a Jew as a Supreme Court justice? I don't know, just asking.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
A 'Palestinian' (i.e. Arab Muslim) is a permanent member of the Israeli Supreme Court.

Is there any country in the Arab world that has a Jew as a Supreme Court justice? I don't know, just asking.
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In most Arab Muslim countries there'd have to be Jews living there first. Those nations pretty much forced their Jewish populations to leave entirely starting in the early 50's...
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
A 'Palestinian' (i.e. Arab Muslim) is a permanent member of the Israeli Supreme Court.

Is there any country in the Arab world that has a Jew as a Supreme Court justice? I don't know, just asking.
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Right. That justifies keeping a couple million of them in an outdoor prison.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
domer76 said:
Right. That justifies keeping a couple million of them in an outdoor prison.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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Let me clear your crazy thinking up some...

Where's that? Oh, you mean Gaza... If Gaza is an "outdoor prison" it is one of the Palestinian's own making. Egypt has closed and secured their border with Gaza like Israel has. Are you saying that Egypt is in on this so-called prison scheme too?

The reason Gaza is isolated is the vast amount of terrorism produced from it. Neither Israel or Egypt wants that shit in their country. Thus, very strict border controls. If the terrorism didn't exist, the strict border controls wouldn't exist.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Let me clear your crazy thinking up some...

Where's that? Oh, you mean Gaza... If Gaza is an "outdoor prison" it is one of the Palestinian's own making. Egypt has closed and secured their border with Gaza like Israel has. Are you saying that Egypt is in on this so-called prison scheme too?

The reason Gaza is isolated is the vast amount of terrorism produced from it. Neither Israel or Egypt wants that shit in their country. Thus, very strict border controls. If the terrorism didn't exist, the strict border controls wouldn't exist.
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Half the population in Gaza wasn’t even born when the LAST ELECTION put Hamas in control. And Egypt, whether that border port is open or closed, has NOTHING to do with the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel.
 
domer76 said:
Israel knows exactly who the Hamas leaders are. The vetting process for everyone else is very do-able.

But, here we are. After being treated the way they have been, most of them their entire lives, why WOULDN’T any Palestinian hate the Israelis?
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Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields. Even if Israel knows who all the Hamas terrorists are as you claim, it is Hamas who is to blame for many of the civilian deaths, not Israel. The hatred of Israel by Palestinians and the surrounding Arab countries has existed for decades - heading into a Century. It didn't just start yesterday.

Again - I'm ready for someone to come up with a solution to the Palestinian/Israel issue. Many have tried.
 
domer76 said:
Half the population in Gaza wasn’t even born when the LAST ELECTION put Hamas in control. And Egypt, whether that border port is open or closed, has NOTHING to do with the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel.
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Well, that's an internal problem (half the population being born after the last election) to Gaza isn't it? Israel and Egypt don't control elections there, the Palestinians do. If Egypt had an open border with Gaza would you still characterize Gaza as an "open-air prison?" If sea travel into Gaza were unrestricted would Gaza be an "open-air prison?"

Israel would ignore Gaza entirely if the Palestinians there stopped shooting rockets and making terrorist attacks into their territory. Who's fault is that?
 
LurchAddams said:
Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields. Even if Israel knows who all the Hamas terrorists are as you claim, it is Hamas who is to blame for many of the civilian deaths, not Israel. The hatred of Israel by Palestinians and the surrounding Arab countries has existed for decades - heading into a Century. It didn't just start yesterday.

Again - I'm ready for someone to come up with a solution to the Palestinian/Israel issue. Many have tried.
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Let them fight until there is one winner, or both sides come to an agreement to stop fighting forever.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, that's an internal problem (half the population being born after the last election) to Gaza isn't it? Israel and Egypt don't control elections there, the Palestinians do. If Egypt had an open border with Gaza would you still characterize Gaza as an "open-air prison?" If sea travel into Gaza were unrestricted would Gaza be an "open-air prison?"

Israel would ignore Gaza entirely if the Palestinians there stopped shooting rockets and making terrorist attacks into their territory. Who's fault is that?
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I don’t deal with “ifs”. They never occur. Only reality. And that reality is that Gaza is an open air prison. Know what prison does to people in the US? It makes better criminals out of many of them. Now, how about a lifetime in prison when you’ve done nothing to deserve it? Except being born in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This shit didn’t start just yesterday. It goes back even farther than the 1940s when Israel, the state, created these refugees by confiscating their land and homes. So, no easy solution, but Israel is not without fault in all of this.

The reality is there have been no elections.
 
domer76 said:
I don’t deal with “ifs”. They never occur. Only reality. And that reality is that Gaza is an open air prison. Know what prison does to people in the US? It makes better criminals out of many of them. Now, how about a lifetime in prison when you’ve done nothing to deserve it? Except being born in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This shit didn’t start just yesterday. It goes back even farther than the 1940s when Israel, the state, created these refugees by confiscating their land and homes. So, no easy solution, but Israel is not without fault in all of this.

The reality is there have been no elections.
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If it is, it is self-imposed by the Palestinians on themselves...
 
BidenPresident said:
The Democratic Party’s yearslong unity behind President Biden is beginning to erode over his steadfast support of Israel in its escalating war with the Palestinians, with a left-leaning coalition of young voters and people of color showing more discontent toward him than at any point since he was elected.

From Capitol Hill to Hollywood, in labor unions and liberal activist groups, and on college campuses and in high school cafeterias, a raw emotional divide over the conflict is convulsing liberal America.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/27/us/politics/biden-democrats-israel-2024.html

Biden's unqualified support for Israel is immoral and very bad policy.
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Biden's support for Israel, IS STANDARD US FOREIGN POLICY, that goes back to before you were born.

Israel is an ally.

But we have other allies in the Middle East, and Biden perfectly understands this.

Biden has said that he agrees that Israel should go after Hamas- AS THEY ARE A TERRORIST GROUP.

But Biden has never agreed to an attack of the Palestinian people, or destroying their homes and infrastructure.

In fact, he has warned Israel that they should not attack the Palestinian People, or destroy their homes, and infrastructure.

So you, and the youth you are referring to, may be taking Joe Biden out of context, and are refusing to grasp what is, and what is not US FOREIGN POLICY- regarding Israel and the Middle Eastern conflict.

You know what I suspect here? I suspect that the Democrats that are having some kind of a bone to pick with Biden over his actions since the terrorist attacks in Israel by the HAMAS terrorist organization, are the same old BUTT-Hurt Bernie Bots that never really approved of Joe Biden anyway!

Bernie Bots are no different than Trumptards- when it comes to looking for excuses to criticize Joe Biden! Bernie Bots are still stabbing Biden in the back at every chance, and they are the ones skewing all of the unfavorable Polls that are being negative on Joe Biden thinking this will lead Bernie to run again for them- so he can give them everything they want for free! In other words, a bunch of self-serving assholes!

I do not like Bernie Bots and other general Hillary Haters- as they are the number one factor in getting Donald Trump elected in 2016. FUCK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT BERNIE BOTS!

SO Bernie Bots can go and FUCK THEMSELVES, as far as I am concerned!

Bernie Bots are not true Democrats, as they are mostly just a bunch of DISGRUNTLED Socialists looking for Government handouts, and they give our Democratic Party a bad name for that!
 
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Geeko Sportivo said:
Biden's support for Israel, IS STANDARD US FOREIGN POLICY, that goes back to before you were born.

Israel is an ally.

But we have other allies in the Middle East, and Biden perfectly understands this.

Biden has said that he agrees that Israel should go after Hamas- AS THEY ARE A TERRORIST GROUP.

But Biden has never agreed to an attack of the Palestinian people, or destroying their homes and infrastructure.

In fact, he has warned Israel that they should not attack the Palestinian People, or destroy their homes, and infrastructure.

So you, and the youth you are referring to, may be taking Joe Biden out of context, and are refusing to grasp what is, and what is not US FOREIGN POLICY- regarding Israel and the Middle Eastern conflict.

You know what I suspect here? I suspect that the Democrats that are having some kind of a bone to pick with Biden over his actions since the terrorist attacks in Israel by the HAMAS terrorist organization, are the same old BUTT-Hurt Bernie Bots that never really approved of Joe Biden anyway!

Bernie Bots are no different than Trumptards- when it comes to looking for excuses to criticize Joe Biden!

I do not like Bernie Bots and other general Hillary Haters- as they are the number one factor in getting Donald Trump elected in 2016. FUCK YOU VERY MUCH BERNIE BOTS!

SO Bernie Bots can go and FUCK THEMSELVES, as far as I am concerned!
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No my little reptilian friend the bone I have to pick with Biden is he helped cause this mess by sucking Ayatollah's butt. He ignored the Trump Iranian oil sanctions and that made Iran over 50 billion which they used to fund Hamas with. THAT got 32 Americans and HUNDREDS of Israelis senselessly slaughtered. I have a BIG problem with that don't you?

BTW GO COWBOYS 43 to Rams 20 that is the only kind of slaughter I approve of. :laugh:
 
ExpressLane said:
I do it at Krogers all the time. :)
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Really? How did you miss all those tabloids, and not realize that Donald Trump was nothing but Tabloid Trash before you Voted for him? :thinking::palm:

Because if you check out in the express lane or tabloid lane at Kroger's- YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES for voting for Donald Trump!
 
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