Active shooter situation in Maine, hospital says 'mass casualty, mass shooter' event

SmarterthanYou said:
wait a minute. so you vote for a person that lies to you, openly, and simply vote them out at the end of their term for lying to you? and we're the stupid ones??????? :laugh:
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Yes you are the stupid one. So stupid you laugh about it.

Whether or not you think it is smart for people to vote for Mayors or Governors or POTUS to protect them is one argument.

But it is not the argument you are making.

You are saying people DO NOT vote for those things. Which means you are divorced from any understanding of reality.

You are speaking on topics you clearly have no clue about and that is because you are stupid.
 
QP! said:
Again your stupidity leads to reading comprehension issues.

The liability I STATED is you fire them. You vote them out.
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that's not really a punishment and if you think that it is, there is something wrong with you

QP! said:
If a politician says 'vote for me and i will protect you. I will invest in policing. I will clean up the city', and they do none of it, as you guys say 'you cannot hold them legally liable for not delivering on their duty' but you can fire them and vote them out.
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again, your stupidity leads you to believe that this is punishment. you will then vote for the next lying fucker, and the next, and the next, all the while you are believing they will protect you. insanity

QP! said:
So back to your point that no one expects politicians or police to protect them you are 100% wrong and stupid. Citizens DO EXPECT politicians and police to protect them and you citing articles showing they do not have a legal 'duty' does not change the expectation.
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a clear indication of stupidity and insanity, if you are going to continually believe liars and live your life according to those politicians promises
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I agree with that, up until the time when you idiots like to use that as an 'A-HA' moment and say 'see, restricting weapons is ok'. if you want to use that argument, then any civilian can own a nuke.


not any more. I want my nuke.



if your argument is that restricting some weapons is ok because nukes are weapons suitable for defending against a tyrannical government, then I want nukes. now, tell me you believe the government would nuke us.
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if you want any and ALL armaments free to anyone to own who can afford them then i commend you on at least being logically consistent. I mean that sincerely. You have logical defensible position. Society will rightful disagree and ensure your view is not adopted but at least you are logical consistent.

the second you say 'Nukes', 'RPG's', 'Missiles', 'Chemical weapons' and other should be restricted but guns should not you expose you are hypocrite and your argument is not based on any Constitutional belief that the 'Right to bear arms' should not be restricted.

As you prove you think your OPINION on what is ok to restrict and not to restrict is what guides you. And then you and i are just debating OPINIONS and not the Constitution.
 
QP! said:
if you want any and ALL armaments free to anyone to own who can afford them then i commend you on at least being logically consistent. I mean that sincerely. You have logical defensible position. Society will rightful disagree and ensure your view is not adopted but at least you are logical consistent.

the second you say 'Nukes', 'RPG's', 'Missiles', 'Chemical weapons' and other should be restricted but guns should not you expose you are hypocrite and your argument is not based on any Constitutional belief that the 'Right to bear arms' should not be restricted.

As you prove you think your OPINION on what is ok to restrict and not to restrict is what guides you. And then you and i are just debating OPINIONS and not the Constitution.
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I can't help but notice that you refused to answer the question so you could ignore how wrong you are.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that's not really a punishment and if you think that it is, there is something wrong with you

again, your stupidity leads you to believe that this is punishment. you will then vote for the next lying fucker, and the next, and the next, all the while you are believing they will protect you. insanity

a clear indication of stupidity and insanity, if you are going to continually believe liars and live your life according to those politicians promises
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Again your stupidity makes you miss the point.

You and I began this discussion when you claimed citizens do not expect protection from Police or their government.

I proved they did, as they vote for exactly that and vote out people who do not deliver. You now admit but say being voted is not much punishment.

We ended up going into 'duty' as you tried to stuff a strawman that does not apply here.
 
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QP! said:
Again your stupidity makes you miss the point.

You and began this discussion when you claimed citizens do not expect protection from Police or their government.

I proved they did, as they vote for exactly that and vote people who do not deliver. You now admit but say being voted is not much punishment.

We ended up going into 'duty' as you tried to stuff a strawman that does not apply here.
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the thing that you have missed is that I said that people should NOT expect that because the government is not responsible for it........you keep deluding yourself that they CAN expect that because politicians tell them that they will, with absolutely no concern about it because they cannot be held liable for it. you proved nothing.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the thing that you have missed is that I said that people should NOT expect that because the government is not responsible for it........you keep deluding yourself that they CAN expect that because politicians tell them that they will, with absolutely no concern about it because they cannot be held liable for it. you proved nothing.
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i do not care what you think people, not named you should expect.

I am telling you citizens DO EXPECT the police and military to protect them and that is one of the number one things they vote on.

You can keep repeating your view you think they SHOULD not , but that is only your view.

i am not speaking to what can be EXPECTED or DELIVERED so you can take that strawman the fuck out of here. The only thing you and i disagreed upon and are arguing over is you saying 'citizens do not expect to be protected by police or gov't'.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this certainly proves that you have absolutely no clue about modern society...........of course you're retired, so I guess you don't need to.
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Thank you for your unsubstantiated opinion and angry rhetoric. No doubt it defines your entire life, son.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
at the very least it is surprising that a suicide risk did not have his guns locked away for the time being....
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Sounds like Maine possibly doesn't have a red flag law, ay? They should have kept him in the hospital until he was no longer a threat to himself or others. Instead the guy said he was going to do this and they just let a delusional firearms instructor with murder fantasies out into the world.
 
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