People place too much on the hard core. There were millions of Trump voters who are not as deep in politics as you may think they are. Their faith in him is capable of erosion.
Meadows Gets Immunity - Spills Beans on Trump
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People place too much on the hard core. There were millions of Trump voters who are not as deep in politics as you may think they are. Their faith in him is capable of erosion.
There are people who said Trump knew he lost and just wanted to steal the election.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
maybe.
but in reality his numbers grow the more he is oppressed.
people are innately decent, despite your skewed view from worshipping satan.
You're comment illustrates the mind bent discussed yesterday of people who call themselves conservative but talk in hyperbolic rubbish, such as "skewed view from worshipping satan". If you had a grasp on what you are talking about you wouldn't feel a need to rely on name calling and moronic overstatement.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
what's my most hyperbolic rubbish?
debunk that first. it should be easy if it's so hyperbolic.
or maybe you're full of shinola?
QP!
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That is the big question.
And that question is tied to how Jack Smith tied his immunity to his testimony at any upcoming trial or depositions or what he said in his proffers.
This immunity deal Mark has is not the same as the deals we have seen in Georgia where the people are pleading to crimes in order to avoid being charged with a bigger crime. In those cases the person's need to cooperate fully is paramount, as any provable lie or omission can leave them in a worse place than they would have been had they said nothing. So few people seeing the path to daylight and freedom will lie or hold back in that situation simply to protect another while imperilling themselves.
Mark Meadows did not go Jack Smith (as far as we can see) looking for a deal and instead Jack Smith granted him some form of limited immunity, which then does not allow Mark to take the 5th when called before a Grand Jury or otherwise questioned on the case. You can ONLY take the 5th if what you say can be used against you, and Jack took that threat away, with regards to him. And Mark did appear before the Grand Jury, and did not take the 5th and has apparently given Jack Smith some proffers.
But that DOES NOT mean he did not answer vague, and may claim 'not to remember' on all key questions. something Smith would not be able to prove was a deliberate lie.
The Georgia case is key IMO, to all of this with regards to Mark. If we do not hear he has cut a deal with them in the coming few weeks, then i think Mark has decided to be a 'ride or die' Trumper. that he is going to maintain innocence and that means he thinks he did not give Jack Smith anything too indicting that could be used against Team Trump. If he thinks he did give Jack Smith any good ammo, or he gets concerned about the increasing number of cooperating witnesses in Georgia, i think his lawyer have to tell him, to 'get a deal while you still can'.
QP!
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The defense Trump lawyers have been pushing on TV is that he is going to use 'an advice of Counsel' defense, which can be a valid defense.
Lets put aside for a minute, whether it really applies here and just all admit, that Trump using that defense shows him to be an idiot and someone who should never be put in ANY position of power again.
Even the TrumpDerps should agree with that.
That is because Trump has argued that he set aside the OTHER advice of Counsel, from Barr (his AG) and the many senior WH Lawyers, because he did not trust or believe them, and he instead, made the call to go with team crazy lawyers, who are all one by one saying 'ya we are criminals are were perpetrating a fraud'.
So even if TrumpDerps you give Trump the biggest pass, that he really did believe Team Crazy over Team Normal, that means Trump demonstrated as a leader just about the worst judgment any leader could do in making that call.
Saying i trusted 'this group' may save you from criminality but it speaks DIRECTLY about your judgement and ability to make reasonable decisions,
(again i am not saying we agree Trump 'trusted' Team Crazy but i am saying even if that was true, that just proves Trump can never be trusted to lead and even TrumpDerps must agree with that)
Quoting it to you once is my quota.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
ok, scrota.
QP!
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True, sadly very few of them reside in the hard core 30% of Trump supporters who prove more and more deplorable each and every day.
I am thankful the rest of the republi'cans' are now getting a taste of how deplorable they are over the Speaker dispute. That they believe any difference of opinion is not to be settled by vote or compromise and threats to get their way are the only option.
Glad to see their own party calling them out now.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I don't know, but am willing to bet there are a few more broken dishes at Mar-a-Lago after he did find out.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I'm guessing Yes.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Believing is fine, but acting on that belief could be criminal. Consider the actions of all the idiots at 1/6. It was okay for them to believe the election was stolen, but once they attacked the police and broke into congress, they became criminal scumbags.
If the evidence proves Trump attempted to illegally overthrow the Georgian election, he'll become a convicted criminal too.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adam-johnson-nancy-pelosis-podium-capitol-riot-sentenced-to-prison/
Man who took Pelosi's podium during Capitol riot sentenced to prison
QP!
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And there you include yourself amongst the deplorables.
That people cannot have a different view on who they support as Speaker and if they do then they get labeled 'Traitor' which then leads to death threats, is EXACTLY what the TrumpDerp republi'can' party has become.
Everyone must have the uni-mind and no one can hold a competing view and not be labeled.
you won't see as you are part of the uni-mind, and just await Trump to tell you what to think and say and you repeat it.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
QP!
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Trump is more of a globalist...democrat... RINO... than many of those currently in the House GOP, who are being attacked simply for not supported his chosen speaker. Many of them have voting records that are hard core right, without fail.
But none of that saves you, if you simply once, disagree with the orange-messiah, as you are then labeled evil and with every insult by TrumpDerps like you. Proving Hillary CLinton got it right years ago. We just have to accept a certain percent of the populace has to be written off as deplorable authoritarians who do not allow for any dissent.
Well, I hope you are correct. The polls show trump's support has not waned one bit since his 100 or so indictments. As a matter of fact, it has strengthened his supporters' resolve. Show me any reason to believe trump's support will fall off if or when he's convicted. Believe me - I want to believe it will.