Men cyclists take gold AND silver medals at Chicago women's race

domer76 said:
Right here, bitch. The event sponsors allow all of that in their rules. And welcome it. It’s their event. It’s their rules. $150 for first place?

Fuck off, asshole. With all the shit going on in this world right now and this is what you obsess about?
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Gomer, Congratulations, you have successfully stolen the title of "village idiot" from Brandonpresident.
 
Lionfish said:
Gomer, Congratulations, you have successfully stolen the title of "village idiot" from Brandonpresident.
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Can’t help you here, bitch. The people who sponsor the event welcome those competitors. If you have a problem with that, write them a fucking letter. I’m sure they’ll give your whine all the attention it deserves.
 
domer76 said:
Can’t help you here, bitch. The people who sponsor the event welcome those competitors. If you have a problem with that, write them a fucking letter. I’m sure they’ll give your whine all the attention it deserves.
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NiftyNiblick said:
Actually, what I've observed over a lifetime in Boston
is that more people vote for Reps on the basis of constituent service
than congressional voting record.

Anybody who's been in office a while
is somebody who been asked for and has delivered
small favors for a large percentage of his/her constituents.

That's part and parcel of living in Boston.
We expect our reps to help us
with certain types of personal problems,
and if they do,
they're there for as long as they like.

Perhaps it's different in rural areas and in really BIG cities.
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Fascinating. Only three times have I asked a congresscritter for help with something. Each time I only mentioned that I was a constituent, not what flavor. One critter was a (D), the other two were (R)s. The (D) helped us out. Never got a response from the (R)s.
 
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QP! said:
I am of the left and do not believe Trans women should be allowed to compete in any 'Competitive Sport' against biological women.

I fully support them to YOLO and live their lives their way, but that does not automatically require access to Competitive sport, when the entire reason a woman's division, in competitive sport was original conceived was to create a space, where people with female biology (sex) could compete against same and not against male biology, which is superior for sport.

The big mistake made, as this trans gender debate emerged was that sport did not instantly realign to 'sex' or 'biology' instead of the now divided gender lines of 'men' and 'women'. When Competitive sport was created they never conceived the split between gender and sex, and thus the terms were considered synonymous. As the terms split, they did not react which caused this issue of 'Mens' and "Womens' divisions. IMO, had they instead stated, right at the beginnings, 'In the truest pursuit of equality in sport, we will realign 'mens' and 'womens' division to biology, which allows everyone born with the same biology the same access to compete against one another, excluding no one', I think this debate would never have got the legs it now has.
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Rather than let governments get involved, let's let the individual sports organizations decide how they want to handle it.

It's amusing to watch the Reichwingers, who generally do not support women's rights in general esp. (the right to govern one's own body when it comes to child-bearing), cry over how "unfair to women" it is to let trans women compete against bio women. It tells me that it isn't women they give a shit about. It's hating on "weird" trans ppl.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Fascinating. Only three times have I asked a congresscritter for help with something. Each time I only mentioned that I was a constituent, not what flavor. One critter was a (D), the only two were (R)s. The (D) helped us out. Never got a response from the (R)s.
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To quote My Cousin Vinny,

"Now there's a fucking surprise."
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Rather than let governments get involved, let's let the individual sports organizations decide how they want to handle it.
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That makes all the sense in the world at first glance, Owl, but the individual organizations can't afford to defend against the lawsuits.
That's why government has to get involved in lots of things, I would imagine.
 
domer76 said:
Can’t help you here, bitch. The people who sponsor the event welcome those competitors. If you have a problem with that, write them a fucking letter. I’m sure they’ll give your whine all the attention it deserves.
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Pretty much what I said in Post #36, above, only much more colorfully. Well done. Thank you.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
That makes all the sense in the world at first glance, Owl, but the individual organizations can't afford to defend against the lawsuits.
That's why government has to get involved in lots of things, I would imagine.
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Another easy solution: Then govt. can pass a law stating that sports organizations are protected from lawsuit when it comes to making up their own rules on the competitions they run.

Maybe athletic orgs. can assign handicap points to any athlete who is now a trans-woman, to account for the biological advantage.

The other thing that makes the Reichwing poutrage about this nothingburger so ridiculous is this: There are more than two genders, XX and XY. Google "intersex athletes" for some interesting reading.
 
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