Do you think they will level Gaza?

Do you think Israel will level Gaza?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • No

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • That's bullshit!

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Total voters
    15
Nordberg said:
Hamas is in Egypt, Turkey, or Qatar. The Palestinians will get killed.
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Hopefully they become persona non grata in those countries. Yes, but not slaughtered like Hamas slaughtered innocent Israelis. Living in a war zone is hazardous.
 
Any structure, of more than 1 inch in height, that is still standing after Israel completes their Gaza attack, is a failure of the mission.

A bombing assessment should show a flat line from border to border.
 
Earl said:
“Beginning in 1978, subsequent leaders DENG Xiaoping, JIANG Zemin, and HU Jintao focused on market-oriented economic development and opening up the country to foreign trade, while maintaining the rule of the CCP. Since the change, China has been among the world’s fastest growing economies, with real gross domestic product averaging over 9% growth annually through 2021, lifting an estimated 800 million people out of poverty, and dramatically improving overall living standards. By 2011, the PRC’s economy was the second largest in the world.”
CIA World Fact Book.

The CCP is doing quite well and will be doing much better when they take Taiwan…with our weakest president in memory in the White House.
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we could bring down china with tariffs alone if elitist fascists weren't so in love with totalitarianism and globalist dimwittery.
 
Damocles said:
Israel did not cut off all communication from outside at that point, but they will now. It will be far more difficult for Iran to just deliver a bunch of rockets to Hamas. They'd have to take a far more direct approach to "help".
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I'm just saying that its far more important to find the people who launch rockets than to find rockets.......same theory we use here when we say don't go after guns, go after the people who use them to kill people......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'm just saying that its far more important to find the people who launch rockets than to find rockets.......same theory we use here when we say don't go after guns, go after the people who use them to kill people......
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By that logic, then only go after the fentanyl drug dealers, not the supplies of fentanyl being transported over the border in semis.

IMO, do both; stop the resupply and stop the shooters.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Hopefully they become persona non grata in those countries. Yes, but not slaughtered like Hamas slaughtered innocent Israelis. Living in a war zone is hazardous.
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Just found this. It's a good read, and it bolsters the notion that most Palestinians are NOT in agreement with Hamas.

Further, it shows that Bibi is every bit as incompetent as trump. Interested only in usurping and keeping control of power.

Interview:
And of course, at the same time, Israel has moved to the far right, and it’s in a strange political situation as well.
It is, and we don’t know exactly what happened, this intelligence failure that everyone has talked about. We don’t know why it happened, and I think it will be months before we know, but one thing that I’ve heard from a number of Israelis is that it has something to do with this far-right government.
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This is also a government where, you look at some of the ministers in this government, they have no experience in security matters. The minister in charge of the police, Itamar Ben-Gvir, is a right-wing ideologue who has no background at all in security
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I do want to note something else here, which is that Hamas does not represent all Palestinians. What has happened is between Hamas and Israel, but Hamas is only part of the picture when it comes to representation of the people who are within Gaza, right?
It is, and they like to say that they are an elected government, which is narrowly true, but again, the last election, the last parliamentary election, was in 2006. The average person in Gaza is 18 years old. The median person is 18 years old, which means the last time there was a Palestinian election, most people in Gaza weren’t even born. So they literally have had no opportunity to choose their leadership. I’ve been going to Gaza for more than a decade now, and one thing that I find increasingly when I go is: There’s a level of popular anger and popular resentment aimed at Hamas. Of course, there’s anger towards Israel, there’s anger towards Egypt, both of which maintain a blockade on Gaza, but the group has lost a lot of popular support. It was elected in 2006, partly as a protest vote against Fatah, which is the nationalist party that controls the West Bank. It’s an incredibly corrupt party. People opted for Hamas in 2006 not necessarily because they agreed with the group’s ideology but because they thought it was a cleaner alternative.
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The piece also describes in detail what Bernie Sanders appropriately terms 'An open air prison'.

Then you talk about the security situation. Again, “fenced off” is really an understatement. In some parts of the border, there are massive concrete slabs with automatic robot-controlled weapons mounted on top of them. In other areas, they are just fences, metal fences, but they are studded with high-tech electronic sensors. The Israelis spent almost a billion dollars a few years ago creating an underground barrier to try and stop Hamas from digging tunnels out of Gaza. All of this money, all of this effort that’s been put into constructing this barrier, and when it came down to it, [Hamas] just cut their way through it and drove across on motorbikes.
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Hamas is doing Palestinians no favors, but murdering Palestinians might not be the answer here.
It's the same blood lust we had for all Muslims after 9/11
 
Doc Dutch said:
By that logic, then only go after the fentanyl drug dealers, not the supplies of fentanyl being transported over the border in semis.

IMO, do both; stop the resupply and stop the shooters.
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I think it would be better to provide addicts with massive, overdose supplies of illegal drugs....we could end the problem in less than a week......the difference is, unlike rockets or guns, the victims volunteer......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I think it would be better to provide addicts with massive, overdose supplies of illegal drugs....we could end the problem in less than a week..

....the difference is, unlike rockets or guns, the victims volunteer......
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Agreed. Legalize drugs and let the losers remove themselves from the gene pool. I fail to see why Fox News makes such a big deal about drug addicts dying of fentanyl.

Which is why it's critical to both stop the supply of weapons and to neutralize all the combatants...with extreme prejudice.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
China Bloc is selling the story that this is just one more reason why America must be removed from global power....lets not help them.
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I dont think China is going to defend Hamas or condemn hitting Hez in Lebanon, They do support a Palestinian state, but arent militant about it, and now that supporting a 2 state=supporting Hamas, they will probably just mouth off and do nothing
 
PostmodernProphet said:
is that the Arab Spring we used to hear about?.....Obama loved him some Arab Spring......
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No this was a long time ago. When the Palestinians first were introduced into Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan they literally tried to stage revolts and overthrow the local govt lol. This was something like 70s or 80s i think.
 
anatta said:
I dont think China is going to defend Hamas or condemn hitting Hez in Lebanon, They do support a Palestinian state, but arent militant about it, and now that supporting a 2 state=supporting Hamas, they will probably just mouth off and do nothing
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Arguing around the world that America is an abusive nation that is leading the world in a bad direction and therefor must be removed from power is a constant thing with the Han.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I would expect the Israelis to flatten any building they know to be used by Hamas, along with key infrastructure. Also they are likely to flatten any building that gunfire or other weapons are fired from. What I don't expect is some sort of carpet bombing of everything.

It'll be disastrous enough for the Palestinians that they lack running water, electricity, gas, etc., along with roads being choked with rubble, and many buildings rendered--possibly as much as a majority--uninhabitable even if still standing.

Once Israel starts a ground invasion of Gaza, things will get ugly. Unlike the US, Israel has zero compunction to spare something like a mosque from being flattened. They'll destroy one in a second if it's being used by Hamas terrorists as shelter. Gaza is about to experience what it was to be in a major German or Japanese city in 1945...
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Well damn! A great responsible post! I'm breaking out the champagne to celebrate! :good4u:

Even BB Natanyahu knows that there are rules to war! Well, that is if he expects the US to replenish his defense systems!

Thanks!
 
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Doc Dutch said:
Which is why a blockade is necessary...and where an international force, read "the United States Navy", could come in handy. At least for identifying targets with their E-2s. Israeli gunboats can interdict or sink anyone running the blockade. Since this is a war, like the Falklands War, the seas around the conflict can be declared a war zone in accordance with international law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Navy#Fleet
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You can bet that two Aircraft Carrier groups that were sent to the region were not sent there to conduct swimming lessons.
 
The way this is loaded is that if the IDF goes into Gaza Hezbollah will attack Israel, at which point the US Navy will obliterate Syria.

What happens after that....does Russia sink the US Navy in the Med?
 
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