Israel at war, U.S. paralyzed by Republicans...

Jarod said:
You are simply too ignorant to see that centuries of families and culture and religion are behind this mess. You are looking at it from a simplistic American POV. We are not steeped in our culture the way Middle Easterners are, we are not connected to our land like they are, we are not religious in the way they are. Western Culture is not the same and we can really never understand it, merely try to study it.

I am glad to be separated from my ancient culture and religion, but they are likely glad to be connected to it.
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The centuries of war and conflict are caused by muslim fighting muslim, at least when they aren't out trying to kill Christians and Jews.
 
guno said:
Expect ground operations in Gaza, relentless strikes against Hamas leaders and positions of all kinds, and air strikes of far greater intensity than we have seen in recent years (perhaps more intense than ever before). The central foundation of Israeli security strategy is the fostering of its enemies' perception that they cannot threaten the state's survival or way of life. Hamas has directly challenged that foundation and Netanyahu's government will believe it critical to restore the deterrent balance.


If Tehran is found to be directly linked to these attacks, Israel may well conduct direct strikes inside Iran. Because of Tehran's hawkish terrorist stance toward the United States, Washington may also be drawn in here.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...6?cvid=7a68ec8bafb9468e98d6b0fb21dbabec&ei=16
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Biden FUNDED Iran, and Hamas.
 
domer76 said:
The fact remains, stupid fuck, that the RW faction of the Republican Party revolted and were the ones responsible for ousting him. You can try to twist it any fucking way you want, just like Trumpian lies, but it doesn’t make it true.

Live with it, cocksucker. It’s water under the bridge. The best thing that can be done with that water? Try to put out the dumpster fire called the House Republicans.
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Nope. DEMOCRATS did, along with a few RINOS.
 
Doc Dutch said:
The past is past. This is the present. Iran still backs Hamas. There might be some Saudis who do, but that will be quashed quickly if SA and Israel come to an agreement.

Sorry to be cynical but follow the money. There is no money in war in the 21st Century.
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Religious wars are not about money, Sock.
 
The history of the region and the conflict matters and while some of the younger generations coming into power these days do not care as much about the historic conflict, it is still important to understand it.


The battle was NEVER one primarily between Israel and Palestine and was merely a continuation of the wars between Israel and the Arab neighbors who had fought and lost many wars with Israel as they tried to drive them into the sea.

Once the Arab nations realized they would not win with direct military fights, they held the Khartoum Summit and agreed as a group, that they would never accept the country of Israel amongst them and they switch their tactic to using Oil Money, to weaponize the Palestinian desire for a homeland against Israel.

Never has the Arab nations supported the actual formation of a Palestinian country, but they knew Israel would fight and they could use that for a proxy war against Israel. That is why Arafat refused the Bill Clinton plan and dies with over a billion dollars, as he was a tool for big Arab money to keep the fighting going.

Arabs cannot have a Country of Palestine in the region, as the Palestinian people have more land claims in Arab countries then they do within Israel. And if the 'Palestinian' people deserve some land in the Mid East, then so to do the Israeli's as an original people of Palestine. So it would make no sense for a newly formed Palestine with its own country to continue to fight Israel for their land (where there is no oil) instead of focusing on the vast amounts 'disputed Palestinian lands' in Arab states that would give them access to Oil.

So that is why we have never seen a real peace in the region and why Israel could never negotiate for peace, as the Arab's would never want Peace and both a nation of Palestine and a nation of Israel on their borders. The negotiations were never between the right groups.
 
Concart said:
I think the calculus was that McCarthy was feckless and dishonest. It seems very likely to me that Republicans are going to eat each other trying to pick a new speaker. A LOT of Republicans don't want any of these clowns. I doubt the caucus can reach consensus. THAT is when Democrats can strike a deal with a moderate speaker candidate that they can work with. I think that's how it ends, and it will leave the Democrats AND the new speaker in a much better place. My two cents, but I guess we'll see. If they all get behind Jordan there will be absolutely nothing done in the House. Including border money, a new budget, and money for Ukraine. That's why I don't see it happening. An anti-Ukraine candidate can't win the gavel.
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America has never done a coalition, but there is always a first.
 
Walt said:
America has never done a coalition, but there is always a first.
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Disagreed. GHW Bush put together a good one for the Gulf War. He needed the help of Arab nations to go against Saddam in order to avoid the war looking like another Crusade.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Disagreed. GHW Bush put together a good one for the Gulf War. He needed the help of Arab nations to go against Saddam in order to avoid the war looking like another Crusade.
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Sorry, I meant coalition governments. That would be where one party votes for another party's leadership. We have never done that in the USA. With the Republicans coming apart, maybe it is time to consider it.
 
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