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friggin liars (I mean lawyers)
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I do not belive that is true. George Washington was not a lawyer... But all of the other founding fathers I can think of were!
You. It appears you can't even remember the constant correction about my expressed opinions that you simply forgot and assumed in even recent personal history. Just read through the past month or two of threads that you started, you will see what I am saying.
Years we have had conversations, years, and every one of them went into the black hole of your memory.
You are incorrect. 35 out of 55 were and most had more than one "profession"...
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States[/ame]
The 1787 delegates practiced a wide range of high and middle-status occupations, and many pursued more than one career simultaneously. They did not differ dramatically from the Loyalists, except they were generally younger and less senior in their professions.[8] Thirty-five were lawyers or had benefited from legal education, though not all of them relied on the profession for a livelihood. Some had also become judges.[9]
* At the time of the convention, 13 men were merchants: Blount, Broom, Clymer, Dayton, Fitzsimons, Shields, Gilman, Gorham, Langdon, Robert Morris, Pierce, Sherman, and Wilson.
* Six were major land speculators: Blount, Dayton, Fitzsimons, Gorham, Robert Morris, and Wilson.
* Eleven speculated in securities on a large scale: Bedford, Blair, Clymer, Dayton, Fitzsimons, Franklin, King, Langdon, Robert Morris, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, and Sherman.
* Twelve owned or managed slave-operated plantations or large farms: Bassett, Blair, Blount, Butler, Carroll, Jenifer, Jefferson, Mason, Charles Pinckney, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, Rutledge, Spaight, and Washington. Madison also owned slaves, as did Franklin, who later freed his slaves and was a key founder of the Pennsylvania Anti-Slavery Society. Alexander Hamilton was opposed to slavery and, with John Jay and other anti-slavery advocates, helped to found the first African free school in New York City. Jay helped to found the New York Manumission Society and, when he was governor of New York in 1798, signed into law the state statute ending slavery as of 1821.
* Broom and Few were small farmers.
* Eight of the men received a substantial part of their income from public office: Baldwin, Blair, Brearly, Gilman, Livingston, Madison, and Rutledge.
* Three had retired from active economic endeavors: Franklin, McHenry, and Mifflin.
* Franklin and Williamson were scientists, in addition to their other activities.
* McClurg, McHenry, and Williamson were physicians, and Johnson was a college president.
Okay, so you made a comment about me personally... Then when I assumed that comment was about me personally you called me egocentric? Curious...
Nah, since you wanted it to be about you personally I made it so.
There is only one person on the board that has a solid education in history as it was his chosen study, I find it ironic that people (more than you) mention such a "lack" in Palin. I think that if that was her only shortfall she'd be a great candidate, it would be easy to fill in that lack.
Id say 35 out of 55 is the vast majority. And almost all of the leaders...
Ohh, I see, you changed what it was about once I was being egocentric?
You are so inconsistant its silly, but it sure makes argueing easier for you...!
I never disagreed, I simply stated that among the founders there was a greater representation of other professions than there is in the leadership of either current party.
I'm glad that over 50% of the Congress did not go to law school. I do not believe that laws need to be made by lawyers who, unlike doctors, almost never save lives in the practice of their profession. I'm stunned that while over 50% of Congress did not go to law school the party leadership has an over-representation of that profession.
cawacko
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this is not difficult to piece to together
lawyers = scum
politicians = scum
many politicians are lawyers
not sure why to be a "lawmaker" one must also be a lawyer
politicians make all kinds of economic decisions; are they teaching economics in law school these days?
how about politicians run a business or participate in the real world instead of just going to law school and right into politics where they are absolutely clueless on how the real world economy works?
lawyers = scum
politicians = scum
many politicians are lawyers
not sure why to be a "lawmaker" one must also be a lawyer
politicians make all kinds of economic decisions; are they teaching economics in law school these days?
how about politicians run a business or participate in the real world instead of just going to law school and right into politics where they are absolutely clueless on how the real world economy works?
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You have a law degree and still cannot spell. I think Palin showed that she was not qualified to be VP given her lack of any sort of grasp on national issues. I do not think that means she is 'poorly educated'. I think it means she was in over her head at the time and tried to make it up as she went along. Which burned her time and again.
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The Almighty
So if you are President, should you at least know how many states are in the union that you are to govern?
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The Almighty
type in ATTORNEY... as I stated... though the term lawyer pulled up four when I used that. It provides the same list your other site listed.
cawacko
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LMAO!!!!
apple0154
MEOW
I read the article.
(EXCERPT) Alas, when I turn to Canada, I see all-party government by lawyers; and the interminable legacy of the extremely lawyerly Liberal Party under that lawyer Pierre Trudeau.(END)
Exactly. The interminable legacy and that's the way we like it.
Being a lawyer Trudeau knew what could and would happen if he didn't make the laws iron clad such as the "notwithstanding clause". Governments can suspend/override some laws but they have to vote on the suspension every five years. In other words they have to show the necessity of maintaining the suspension as opposed to changing laws and then having to go through the hassle of getting enough votes to change them back. In other words people's freedom is the default position. And considering the "war on terror" and stripping of individual rights maybe Mr. Trudeau was psychic.
He did his best to ensure future governments could not take away people's rights.
"1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/1.html#anchorbo-ga:l_I-gb:s_1
The onus is on the government to show the need, not simply pass any law that pleases them.
Damn Liberals! Always giving people rights.
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I have no idea what a hart attack is or a cartioligist for that matter.
If I had a HEART attack, I would probably be taken to the ER. A CARDIOLOGIST might be called in if necessary.
No... I want people with real life experience writing the laws. Economists, doctors, farmers, teachers, business people etc... I want the lawyers on the COURTS to make sure the laws are Constitutional.
Take a look at the laws that are written by these lawyers. They tend to be vague. They tend to be written so that no one other than a lawyer can understand what is being written. Write the laws in plain English so the people being represented can understand them.