“American Democracy Requires a Conservative Party”

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“Every nation needs parties of the left and the right, but America’s conservative party has collapsed—and its absence will undermine the recovery of American democracy even when Donald Trump is gone.”

“The immediate problem America faces is that it no longer has a center-right party that represents traditional conservatism, or even respects basic constitutional principles such as the rule of law.”

“The United States, like any other nation, needs political parties that can represent views on the left and the right. There are areas of disagreement, and every functioning democracy needs parties that can contest these issues within the circumscribed limits of a democratic and rights-respecting constitution. Today’s Republican Party rarely exhibits such commitments to the rule of law, constitutionalism, or democracy itself.”

“The current GOP is not so much conservative as it is reactionary: Today’s right-wing voters are a loose movement of various groups, but especially of white men, obsessed with a supposedly better past in which they were not the aggrieved minority they see themselves as today. They reject almost everything in the current social and political order because everything around them is the product of the hated now that has displaced the sacred then.”

“America needs an actual conservative party, but it is unlikely to produce one in the near future. The movement around Trump will come to an end because it is primarily a movement of older people. Although the cult will someday dissolve, the authoritarians his movement spawned will still be with us, and they will prevent the formation of a sensible center-right party in the United States.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/daily/

America has always been a nation of separate political parties representing defined principles and ideologies, but today we lack a represented conservative voice. As much as Trump and the MAGA militia say they are conservative, they are not, nor do they represent core conservative principles whose presence is necessary for an operating democracy.

As the opinion states, the real danger here isn’t Trump, or the MAGA militia, but what follows and the appetite to descend into authoritarianism.
 
authoritarianism is an inevitable result of idiots being too stupid to understand that political parties on the left and right are not there to help you, but enslave you.
 
authoritarianism is an inevitable result of idiots being too stupid to understand that political parties on the left and right are not there to help you, but enslave you.

Ah, no, parties on the left and right are necessary to hammer out and compromise solutions to the problems we face as a nation, one without the other leads to tyranny
 
Ah, no, parties on the left and right are necessary to hammer out and compromise solutions to the problems we face as a nation, one without the other leads to tyranny

history has conclusively shown that any time both parties hammer out a compromise on anything, the american people lose freedom, power, and/or money. FACTS
 
“Every nation needs parties of the left and the right, but America’s conservative party has collapsed—and its absence will undermine the recovery of American democracy even when Donald Trump is gone.”

Well, we already have a right of center party in the Democrats.
Our Democratic Party. my party, would be the party furthest to the right in almost any other democracy in the world.

Our Republican Party would literally be the prison population of just about ANY other nation in the world,
regardless of their form of government.

That's how socially regressive America is among democratic nations.
This is beyond any sane argument.

The oldest continuous democracy in the world
is also the most old-fashioned, out-of-date, obsolete,
and above all,
shamefully inefficient democracy in the world.

But, it's ours and we're stuck with it until it collapses.

What we desperately need in America---
the only thing that can save it, in fact--
is a viable party to the LEFT of the Democrats
so that I can join it while I'm still fucking here.

These are simple and demonstrable facts.
One would have to be a hopeless "true believer" to not recognize them
 
Sir, you cannot have a Nation without LAWS!

Show us one who does not!

I never said that........laws to protect people from crime, or punish people for committing crimes, are necessary. Laws for the sake of 'doing something'............that's where we all lose..........

especially when laws are passed with exemptions for government
 
Well, we already have a right of center party in the Democrats.
Our Democratic Party. my party, would be the party furthest to the right in almost any other democracy in the world.

Our Republican Party would literally be the prison population of just about ANY other nation in the world,
regardless of their form of government.

That's how socially regressive America is among democratic nations.
This is beyond any sane argument.

The oldest continuous democracy in the world
is also the most old-fashioned, out-of-date, obsolete,
and above all,
shamefully inefficient democracy in the world.

But, it's ours and we're stuck with it until it collapses.

What we desperately need in America---
the only thing that can save it, in fact--
is a viable party to the LEFT of the Democrats
so that I can join it while I'm still fucking here.

These are simple and demonstrable facts.
One would have to be a hopeless "true believer" to not recognize them

You are a commie that had to admit you would not be allowed take up residency in any other civilized country.
 
“Every nation needs parties of the left and the right, but America’s conservative party has collapsed—and its absence will undermine the recovery of American democracy even when Donald Trump is gone.”

“The immediate problem America faces is that it no longer has a center-right party that represents traditional conservatism, or even respects basic constitutional principles such as the rule of law.”

“The United States, like any other nation, needs political parties that can represent views on the left and the right. There are areas of disagreement, and every functioning democracy needs parties that can contest these issues within the circumscribed limits of a democratic and rights-respecting constitution. Today’s Republican Party rarely exhibits such commitments to the rule of law, constitutionalism, or democracy itself.”

“The current GOP is not so much conservative as it is reactionary: Today’s right-wing voters are a loose movement of various groups, but especially of white men, obsessed with a supposedly better past in which they were not the aggrieved minority they see themselves as today. They reject almost everything in the current social and political order because everything around them is the product of the hated now that has displaced the sacred then.”

“America needs an actual conservative party, but it is unlikely to produce one in the near future. The movement around Trump will come to an end because it is primarily a movement of older people. Although the cult will someday dissolve, the authoritarians his movement spawned will still be with us, and they will prevent the formation of a sensible center-right party in the United States.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/daily/

America has always been a nation of separate political parties representing defined principles and ideologies, but today we lack a represented conservative voice. As much as Trump and the MAGA militia say they are conservative, they are not, nor do they represent core conservative principles whose presence is necessary for an operating democracy.

As the opinion states, the real danger here isn’t Trump, or the MAGA militia, but what follows and the appetite to descend into authoritarianism.

We are already moving in that direction, it's called leftism. We will descend into a totalitarian state headed by leftists.
 
You are a commie that had to admit you would not be allowed take up residency in any other civilized country.

I'm welcome, Fibbing Flounder, to at least visit for a while
when my passport isn't expired as it unfortunately is right now.
I've come to hate commercial airlines so much
that I let that happen.

I have to think that as soon as you shot off your mouth, Fibbing Flounder,
any civilized nation would make you mysteriously disappear....quickly.

Are you kept muzzled when you're abroad on holiday, Fibbing Flounder,
or are you smart enough to just stay home?
 
you've become numb to being butthurt and wrong, haven't you?

I've not become numb to recognizing hopeless assholes, STY.
One of my greatest laments
is that we don't have adequate facilities
for mutants like yourself.

Again, not my fault.
I've advocated that for decades.
 
I never said that........laws to protect people from crime, or punish people for committing crimes, are necessary. Laws for the sake of 'doing something'............that's where we all lose..........

especially when laws are passed with exemptions for government

Well that puts us all back to the original Political circle jerk-

of Who gets to legislate and sign these laws for everyone else to have to follow?

The Good guys or the Bad guys who do not even follow their own rules?
 
We are already moving in that direction, it's called leftism. We will descend into a totalitarian state headed by leftists.

That’s not true, the Democrats as a party have well defined guiding principles, and tyranny isn’t included, the current GOP has lost their identity, and is owned, literally owned, by a demagogue who doesn’t even know what Republican principles are nor cares, his agenda guides the party.

As the theme of the threads states, America needs a Conservative GOP
 
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