Supreme Court tells Alabama NOPE!

I thought your kind liked the popular vote? What does it matter what district someone is in? A vote is a vote. The one with the most votes wins, right?

That's not the way it works with gerrymandering. The one with the most votes doesn't win because the party with fewer votes has gamed the system so that the one with the most votes can't win in the state.
 
That's not the way it works with gerrymandering. The one with the most votes doesn't win because the party with fewer votes has gamed the system so that the one with the most votes can't win in the state.

So you're saying not every vote, in Alabama in this case, is counted. Gerrymandering prevents votes from being counted. Got it.
 
So you're saying not every vote, in Alabama in this case, is counted. Gerrymandering prevents votes from being counted. Got it.

Reading is hard!!

I said not every vote counts the same in a gerrymandered voting system since the party with the most votes doesn't win the most seats.
 
Reading is hard!!

I said not every vote counts the same in a gerrymandered voting system since the party with the most votes doesn't win the most seats.

No this is what you said:

"That's not the way it works with gerrymandering. The one with the most votes doesn't win because the party with fewer votes has gamed the system so that the one with the most votes can't win in the state."

Where does it say, "...not every vote counts the same"?
 
Reading is hard!!

I said not every vote counts the same in a gerrymandered voting system since the party with the most votes doesn't win the most seats.

Isn't the idea that people from certain areas elect their own representatives?

You would force the people from Buena Park to be represented by those voters in Los Angeles imposed on them - due to greater population.

You are in short, a tyrant.
 
how does a party with FEWER votes get to set the districts???????

In Colorado they created districts that cut out strong republican areas, put them together in oddly shaped districts gerrymandered to build districts that would no longer be contested but would be sure victories for the democrats. This had a combined effect in that it created rural districts that have fewer representatives than they had before when there were more fairly structured districts, and they got a majority in both houses of the legislature for the past two elections after their gerrymandering. This created fewer districts with votes that would go like 75% for republicans, as they carefully cut them out of districts where they were often winning by close votes 52% to 48% and the like and gaining one or the other house of the legislature....

What the courts are enforcing is to have Alabama create carefully structured districts that will ensure that there are two districts with majority black voters. The courts are carefully creating oddly shaped districts to give one historically underrepresented group an advantage in more than one district, while Alabama was demanding that the district they constructed that ensured one district only was the way to go. The SCOTUS, largely made up of conservatives, decided against Alabama in this case.
 
In Colorado they created districts that cut out strong republican areas, put them together in oddly shaped districts gerrymandered to build districts that would no longer be contested but would be sure victories for the democrats. This had a combined effect in that it created rural districts that have fewer representatives than they had before when there were more fairly structured districts, and they got a majority in both houses of the legislature for the past two elections after their gerrymandering. This created fewer districts with votes that would go like 75% for republicans, as they carefully cut them out of districts where they were often winning by close votes 52% to 48% and the like and gaining one or the other house of the legislature....

What the courts are enforcing is to have Alabama create carefully structured districts that will ensure that there are two districts with majority black voters. The courts are carefully creating oddly shaped districts to give one historically underrepresented group an advantage in more than one district, while Alabama was demanding that the district they constructed that ensured one district only was the way to go. The SCOTUS, largely made up of conservatives, decided against Alabama in this case.

not exactly what I was referring to.....the intimation was that the party with fewer votes was gaming the system, but how did that party find themselves the ability to redistrict if they had fewer votes?
 
not exactly what I was referring to.....the intimation was that the party with fewer votes was gaming the system, but how did that party find themselves the ability to redistrict if they had fewer votes?

Magical thinking. Remember for people on the left things are true simply because they think it.
 
I thought your kind liked the popular vote? What does it matter what district someone is in? A vote is a vote. The one with the most votes wins, right?

Because Alabama gerrymandered blacks out of any representation. Look at the map they drew to force a black minority in every district.
 
In Colorado they created districts that cut out strong republican areas, put them together in oddly shaped districts gerrymandered to build districts that would no longer be contested but would be sure victories for the democrats. This had a combined effect in that it created rural districts that have fewer representatives than they had before when there were more fairly structured districts, and they got a majority in both houses of the legislature for the past two elections after their gerrymandering. This created fewer districts with votes that would go like 75% for republicans, as they carefully cut them out of districts where they were often winning by close votes 52% to 48% and the like and gaining one or the other house of the legislature....

What the courts are enforcing is to have Alabama create carefully structured districts that will ensure that there are two districts with majority black voters. The courts are carefully creating oddly shaped districts to give one historically underrepresented group an advantage in more than one district, while Alabama was demanding that the district they constructed that ensured one district only was the way to go. The SCOTUS, largely made up of conservatives, decided against Alabama in this case.

Same idea, except in Alabama it was race and ideology.
 
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