Americans Are Losing Faith in the Value of College. Whose Fault Is That?

Althea said:
In many of the largest universities, sports is a moneymaker.
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Yeah and that's a real shame. My old undergrad alma mater recently went through a process of slashing their departments to save $$$. They were looking at wholesale elimination of several full majors. But the Athletics department didn't have to cut one thing and, in fact, got more money. Only problem is that school is NOT a powerhouse of athletics. They are a minor player in an even more minor conference. But althletics MUST BE KEPT SACRED.

I think athletic scholarships might be a good deal for people who may have no other options for getting into college and I hope (hope) that a lot of the student athletes actually DO get benefit from the university. But I also am pretty sure the education of said athletes is NOT priority to the university. They are effectively underpaid employees.

When I was a TA back in grad school we often had student athletes in the intro geology classes we all taught. And they had a TON of support from the football program. Their performance we monitored and help was provided. I actually felt sorry for the NON-ATHLETES because they were on their own to make it though "rocks for jocks". Not because the student athletes' life of the mind was valued, but if they got bad grades they might risk being off the team and being unable to play and fulfill their fiducial role to the university.
 
Cupressus said:
Yeah and that's a real shame. My old undergrad alma mater recently went through a process of slashing their departments to save $$$. They were looking at wholesale elimination of several full majors. But the Athletics department didn't have to cut one thing and, in fact, got more money. Only problem is that school is NOT a powerhouse of athletics. They are a minor player in an even more minor conference. But althletics MUST BE KEPT SACRED.

I think athletic scholarships might be a good deal for people who may have no other options for getting into college and I hope (hope) that a lot of the student athletes actually DO get benefit from the university. But I also an pretty sure the education of said athletes is NOT priority to the university. They are effectively underpaid employees.

When I was a TA back in grad school we often had student athletes in the intro geology classes we all taught. And they had a TON of support from the football program. Their performance we monitored and help was provided. I actually felt sorry for the NON-ATHLETES because they were on their own to make it though "rocks for jocks".
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Many colleges graduate athletes that are functionally illiterate. Some programs (Duke) are extremely successful at graduating athletes with stellar grades and valuable degrees.

Over the decades it has become so profitable to have a winning football/basketball team, said universities fudge grades in order to comply with mandatory requirements. They might do this by turning a blind eye to surrogates taking tests, or relying on the reports of tutors as gospel.

There was a time when obtaining a 'free' education in exchange for excelling in sports was considered a great deal. These days the athletes don't even bother getting an education, and opt to use college as an avenue to be discovered by pro agents.

We all saw how intelligently Hershel Walker articulated his thoughts during the special election.
 
Cupressus said:
Who in god's name hates electricians??????????
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All libs hate them just like they hate engineers and physicists and auto repairmen and farmers and plumbers. These people all have very valuable jobs, but they are white men and so libs hate them. Libs love social workers and diversity consultants.
 
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