Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
The Ukrainians haven't gotten their hand on these yet.....
Game changer.
Russia will want revenge after losing the war
- Thread starter Cypress
- Start date
The Ukrainians haven't gotten their hand on these yet.....
Game changer.
The Ukrainians haven't gotten their hand on these yet.....
Game changer.
You are one stupid motherfukcer.
Geeko Sportivo
Verified User
What I said is basically nature taking it's course. It is not me, and it is not you that have all the clues, but one thing is certain, this effort has backfired on Putin, and now he don't have much of a choice but to follow through or step down. And it's not likely that he will step down, but what is more likely is that he will be defeated on the battlefield. The writing is already on the wall!
Putin got two things wrong! He overestimated his own strength, and he underestimated the Western response and the will of the Ukrainians to defend their nation.
Next!
Last edited:
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The Ukrainians haven't gotten their hand on these yet.....
Game changer.
Not unless we're also supplying the pilots... Besides that, air power doesn't win wars. It's only a force multiplier.
Pilots is just the beginning of the problems with this latest idiotic idea.
I love how Putin boot-lickers have to continuously dial back and shrink the definition of a Russian victory to fit the evolving Kremlin narrative.
In February of 2002, Putin defined victory as the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.
His goal was to replace the government in Kyiv, strip Ukraine of any meaningful military power, and make Ukraine a vassal beholden to the Kremlin.
Ukraine is more heavily armed and lethal than ever.
There is exactly zero chance of Putin conquering and replacing the Kyiv government with a Kremlin vassel puppet.
Ukraine is now staunchly pro Western, and as a nation Ukraine will hate Russia with a burning passion for generations.
Ukraine has recovered at least half of it's sovereign territory Putin previously occupied in March of 2022.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
In fairness, Cypress, you're the one flying the Russian flag, no?
I'm getting mixed messages.
So when Trump was president, you also believed the American flag belonged to Trump?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
No, perhaps not,
but I do admit to not having been very proud of it.
Just about everybody with a pickup truck festooned with flag stickers was a trumpanzee...
at least in this part of the country where trumpanzees are a minority.
What is your theory for the Russian people never having been able to sustain a democracy in their modern history?
Perhaps it isn't a priority in the national mentality. Perhaps it's something else.
I don't think Trump owned the American flag, and I don't think the Russian tri-color belongs to Putin.
Outside of western Europe and North America, very few countries have successful maintained democracies.
We in the United States are fortunate because we inherited (we did not invent) the English tradition of representative government and civil rights. It was a clean, short, and straight line for us from that to the US constitution.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea have stable democracies outside of Western Europe and North America.
So do Australia and New Zealand.
China [PRC} doesn't exactly have a democracy, but the standard of living is on a steady upward rise,
and people feel free when they're living well. That's certainly my primary criterion.
I'm not sure that geography has much to do with it, but by the same token,
I don't claim expertise on the subject either.
evince
Truthmatters
Putin will be dead by then
evince
Truthmatters
For that to happen, Russia would have to lose.
There is zero evidence supporting such an outcome - unfortunately.
Even when Biden puts American troops on the ground in another 9 or 10 months it is unlikely that Russia will lose.
Russia under Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and Putin's first two terms was substantially more democratic than PRC. PRC is not remotely democratic.
Japan had democracy forced on them by an occupying American army.
S. Korea and Taiwan were basically military dictatorships right until the end of the 20th century.
The constitution on the Russian democratic provisional government in 1917 was arguably, in principal anyway, the most liberal government on the planet at that time. When Russians were allowed to vote in a free and fair election, they chose the democratic socialist party (SRPs) over the Bolsheviks.
They've already lost, based on Putin's definition of Russian victory he gave in February 2022.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ge-after-losing-the-war&p=5768681#post5768681
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
You are one stupid motherfukcer.
Obviously they have pilots who will be fully trained by the time the F-16's are delivered.
I'm not predicting any kind of guaranteed Ukraine victory based on them having these aircraft, but I'm thinking it will prevent a Russian victory.