Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago

I'll let you know that most rational adults mock stupid people like you who rush to Wikipedia for help with all of life's decisions and who believe every fucked-up wild nonsense they read on the internet.

I will not rush to Google answers that I already know. I'm confident that the first 10,000 hits will get it wrong because this world is full of undereducated leftists filling the internet with errors at a breakneck pace. I am not interested in any of the disinformation you crave.

I have only one piece of advice for you before I send you back to coloring over at the children's table: learn some science.

* The 2nd law of thermodynamics explains why electric cars will always be less efficient than combustion engine vehicles, and explains why electrics will only be filling niche needs.
* The Fischer-Tropsh process explains why hydrocarbons are the worlds best renewable sources of energy.

Learn those, or relegate yourself to being raked over the coals regularly by those who are not undereducated leftists and who don't fall for the same internet disinformation that so easily sucked you in.

Don't be afraid to come to me with the hard stuff.

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Dude, not only are you ignorant you don’t understand physics either. In no way are electric engines are less efficient than internal combustion engines. That cray-cray talk. And hydrocarbons are by definition not a renewable resource. Do you even know what renewable means? LOL

You’re just playing politics on something you know Jack squat about.
 
Dude, not only are you ignorant you don’t understand physics either.
He does, including the theories of science he just mentioned.
In no way are electric engines are less efficient than internal combustion engines.
EVs use almost twice the energy of an internal combustion engine going the same distance with a similar sized car. Here's why:

First, EVs are heavier. You are trying to move almost twice the weight. According to Newton's law of motion, F=mA, that means you need twice the force to start to move it, turn it, or stop it. It also means you need twice the force to overcome friction and drag.

2nd, EVs must be charged to run. That electricity comes from a power plant that typically burns coal or natural gas. The same efficiency applies to the use of that fuel source that you use in a gasoline car. However, additional losses occur to transmit that power to your EV charger, including losses from eddy currents in transformers (why transformers are oil cooled with fans and everything), and resistive and inductive losses and capacitive losses in the power lines themselves. No wire is a perfect conductor.

3rd, charging an EV causes conversion to thermal energy (heat loss) as ions move through the electrolyte barrier. These are heavy particles. The battery heats during charging, which limits the rate at which a battery (any battery) may be charged. Li-ion batteries have a lower internal resistance than most others, but it's still greater than zero.

4th, discharging an EV causes conversion to thermal energy (heat loss) as ions move back through the electrolyte barrier. Did you know that EV batteries are liquid cooled for a reason? That coolant is sent to a radiator for more effective cooling.

5th, the windings of the motor also have heat losses. The motors themselves are oil cooled through a radiator.

6th, the usual mechanical losses (that both cars have) due to tire friction, air drag, mechanical friction, etc. However, due to the extra weight of the EV, the tires have more tire friction.

By the time you add up all the losses to charge and discharge your EV, it gets about 25% efficiency. Modern FADEC gasoline engines, can achieve efficiencies as high as 45%. Some high compression engines can get even better.

You cannot create energy out of nothing. That is ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
You cannot ignore the losses of getting power to your EV charger and the action on the battery that causes heat both during charging and discharging. That is ignoring the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
You cannot ignore the extra weight of the EV. That is ignoring Newton's law of motion.

That cray-cray talk.
No. It's theories of science and principles of engineering that YOU are choosing to ignore.
And hydrocarbons are by definition not a renewable resource.
They are are a renewable resource. The Fischer-Tropsche process shows why. The Earth is a giant Fischer-Tropsche reactor. This is why when you pump a well dry, you can close it temporarily and it will refill with oil. This is why you can get natural gas from almost anywhere, including oil wells, swamps, landfills, sewer systems, or underground deposits of their own.
Do you even know what renewable means? LOL
Yes. Both oil and natural gas are renewable fuels. Apparently you choose to ignore the Fischer-Tropsche process as well.
You’re just playing politics on something you know Jack squat about.
Science has no politics. Science has no religion. Science isn't even people. Science is just set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all. Nothing more.

So far you have chosen to ignore the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, Ohm's law, Maxwell's law, and Newton's law of motion. In other threads you have also chosen to ignore the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

You also seem to think that EVs are somehow 'new technology'. They aren't. EVs existed BEFORE gasoline engines were put in cars. The currently used battery, the Li-ion battery, was developed in the mid 80's, some 40 years ago. The current generation of FADEC internal combustion engines was developed a mere 7 years ago.

The most efficient engine in the world is a jet aircraft engine operating at altitude. It is an internal combustion engine.
The 2nd most efficient engine in the world is a diesel-electric locomotive engine. This sucker can haul an entire trainload of heavy freight VERY cheaply. This is an internal combustion engine.

In cars, the internal combustion engine is by far the better choice due to it's efficiency. It has other advantages as well. It does not require anything more than commonly available tools to maintain them. The EV is a clear disadvantage here as well, since they require specially equipped shops (read, dealer repair for EVERYTHING), to maintain them.
 
Dude, not only are you ignorant you don’t understand physics either. In no way are electric engines are less efficient than internal combustion engines. That cray-cray talk. And hydrocarbons are by definition not a renewable resource. Do you even know what renewable means? LOL

You’re just playing politics on something you know Jack squat about.

Why do you suppose the guy in the OP ditched his truck?
 
Why do you suppose the guy in the OP ditched his truck?

Mostly because he found out what a pain it is to not be able to charge it reliably, and the time it takes to recharge it.
He originally bought that truck to 'do the right thing', as he put it. In other words, he bought it because the government told him to buy it to 'save the planet'.

Being from the dictatorship of Canada, he bought into the government BS.
 
Dude, not only are you ignorant you don’t understand physics either. In no way are electric engines are less efficient than internal combustion engines. That cray-cray talk. And hydrocarbons are by definition not a renewable resource. Do you even know what renewable means? LOL

You’re just playing politics on something you know Jack squat about.

those fucking lithium mines are way worse that any fucking oil well, Mott the Weedhead
 
Mostly because he found out what a pain it is to not be able to charge it reliably, and the time it takes to recharge it.
He originally bought that truck to 'do the right thing', as he put it. In other words, he bought it because the government told him to buy it to 'save the planet'.

Being from the dictatorship of Canada, he bought into the government BS.

Exactly! It's a great example of the lefts use of shaming to get people to comply. Fuck the leftist free huggers.
 
You are going to be SO PISSED when you learn that oil companies get massive subsidies.

Such a silly lie, which was debunked decades ago.

Proof again that no lie, no matter how thoroughly debunked, ever dies among democrats. Drones merely wait until they think people have forgotten that a lie is debunked, then trot it out again.

Yale lies.

Period - it's what Yale does. Yale is an institution of disinformation propagating ignorance.

So let's look at Yale - as an example of Marxist lying claiming that oil is subsidized:

Yale breathlessly spews,

{Coal, oil, and natural gas received $5.9 trillion in subsidies in 2020}

WOW - that's massive - except that it's a fucking lie.

Read a little further and the lie is exposed,

{implicit subsidies, which took the form of tax breaks or, to a much larger degree, health and environmental damages that were not priced into the cost of fossil fuels, according to the analysis.

“Underpricing leads to overconsumption of fossil fuels, which accelerates global warming and exacerbates domestic environmental problems including losses to human life from local air pollution and excessive and road congestion and accidents,” authors wrote. “This has long been recognized, but globally countries are still a long way from getting energy prices right.”}
Wait, so there are no subsidies - the filthy lying fucks at Yale are just demanding a tithe from the Oil Industry to fund their insane fucktard global warming religion?

Yep, that's how the Marxists play things.

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds - Yale E360
 
I plan to draw social security too.

If I paid in, then I will participate - WHILE opposing at the ballot box.

There is no Social Security lockbox. You do not 'pay in' for social security. Your payments (taxes) go to pay for those already on it, just as those working will pay for you.
 
Such a silly lie, which was debunked decades ago.

Proof again that no lie, no matter how thoroughly debunked, ever dies among democrats. Drones merely wait until they think people have forgotten that a lie is debunked, then trot it out again.

Yale lies.

Period - it's what Yale does. Yale is an institution of disinformation propagating ignorance.

So let's look at Yale - as an example of Marxist lying claiming that oil is subsidized:

Yale breathlessly spews,

{Coal, oil, and natural gas received $5.9 trillion in subsidies in 2020}

WOW - that's massive - except that it's a fucking lie.

Read a little further and the lie is exposed,

{implicit subsidies, which took the form of tax breaks or, to a much larger degree, health and environmental damages that were not priced into the cost of fossil fuels, according to the analysis.

“Underpricing leads to overconsumption of fossil fuels, which accelerates global warming and exacerbates domestic environmental problems including losses to human life from local air pollution and excessive and road congestion and accidents,” authors wrote. “This has long been recognized, but globally countries are still a long way from getting energy prices right.”}
Wait, so there are no subsidies - the filthy lying fucks at Yale are just demanding a tithe from the Oil Industry to fund their insane fucktard global warming religion?

Yep, that's how the Marxists play things.

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds - Yale E360

Yups...oil companies are massively subsidized by tax payers.
 
those fucking lithium mines are way worse that any fucking oil well, Mott the Weedhead

Most lithium 'mines' are really not mines at all. They scrape up the soil and leach it for lithium using large amounts of sulfuric acid in holding ponds. The result is sulfide pollution and a lot of wasted water.
Most people drive by an oil well and they don't even realize they drove past it. All you see is a beam pump and a few relatively innocuous tanks near it.
 
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