Arrest warrant issued for orange blimp Trumpf

[Mr.Badguy]

When can we start killing the vermin?

You need someone to tell you when to start. That's why I'm not worried at all. You're all fucking pussies, playing at being "patriots" when in reality you just got conned by a KNOWN conman. You think because things didn't go your way that you're being "oppressed" when in reality you're fucking little crybabies, WORSE than the memes about the left. You won't do shit but sit in your mom's basement and piss your pants because deep down inside you know I'm right, and even you don't believe the bullshit you spew daily.

If you did, you'd already be fighting, likely dead because the rest of the country doesn't share your delusion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You need someone to tell you when to start. That's why I'm not worried at all.

We Americans will never initiate violence.

When your move to end the Constitutional Republic fails, whether due to an honest jury or the SCOTUS defending the 1st Amendment - we both know you'll again dispatch your Brown Shirts to burn, loot, and murder - just as you did in 2019. Then the gloves come off - all the way off.

 

[Hawkeye10]

We Americans will never initiate violence.

When your move to end the Constitutional Republic fails, whether due to an honest jury or the SCOTUS defending the 1st Amendment - we both know you'll again dispatch your Brown Shirts to burn, loot, and murder - just as you did in 2019. Then the gloves come off - all the way off.

Notice how the Revolution, failing to get the violence it needs to complete its program, resorts to false flag operations....hilariously incompetently.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

We Americans will never initiate violence.

When your move to end the Constitutional Republic fails, whether due to an honest jury or the SCOTUS defending the 1st Amendment - we both know you'll again dispatch your Brown Shirts to burn, loot, and murder - just as you did in 2019. Then the gloves come off - all the way off.

Do it pussy, throw your life away for a conman like Ashli Babbitt.

Gonna get your mommy to drive you to the protests like Rittenhouse?

 

[Cypress]

Yet even with an all-Trump federal government, #TRE45ON never did make good on that promise, did he?

Because Hillary didn't commit any felony crimes. She may have skirted State Department administrative policy. The Republican congress and Trump's DOJ would have been screaming it from the hilltops, if they had credible evidence of felony crimes.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Do it pussy, throw your life away for a conman like Ashli Babbitt.

Gonna get your mommy to drive you to the protests like Rittenhouse?

Down Under is a dumbass and a cry-bully. He's only tough online. Meet him in public and he's a milquetoast.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Because Hillary didn't commit any felony crimes. She may have skirted State Department administrative policy. The Republican congress and Trump's DOJ would have been screaming it from the hilltops, if they had credible evidence of felony crimes.

Yep. As always when it comes to the Clintons -- for decades now -- the fascists have to rely upon innuendo and gossip, rather than evidence, in order to smear them.

 

[Cypress]

Yep. As always when it comes to the Clintons -- for decades now -- the fascists have to rely upon innuendo and gossip, rather than evidence, in order to smear them.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are probably the most investigated politicians in American history.

Either we have to assume they are criminal masterminds who successfully evaded all inquires by Congress and the DOJ.

Or we have to conclude they never actually committed any felony crimes.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Bill and Hillary Clinton are probably the most investigated politicians in American history.

Either we have to assume they are criminal masterminds who successfully evaded all inquires by Congress and the DOJ.

Or we have to conclude they never actually committed any felony crimes.

Hillary was the smart one. She knew where the lines were drawn. Except for deliberately mishandling classified material then obstructing justice by attempting to destroy the evidence, she tried to stay within the law, albeit often behaved unethically.

Not saying she should have gone to prison, but she should at least have received the same punishment as General Petraeus.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Bill and Hillary Clinton are probably the most investigated politicians in American history.

Either we have to assume they are criminal masterminds who successfully evaded all inquires by Congress and the DOJ.

Or we have to conclude they never actually committed any felony crimes.

It's just beautiful how they've managed to outsmart countless Republican investigators, prosecutors, and witch hunters, isn't it? lol

 

[NiftyNiblick]

It's just beautiful how they've managed to outsmart countless Republican investigators, prosecutors, and witch hunters, isn't it? lol

The Clintons did all of their malfeasance totally legally, Owl,
by caving in to Newt Gingrich and his contract on America.

Repealing Glass-Steagall was the mothership of travesty, but there was so much more.

 

[Cypress]

Hillary was the smart one. She knew where the lines were drawn. Except for deliberately mishandling classified material then obstructing justice by attempting to destroy the evidence, she tried to stay within the law, albeit often behaved unethically.

Not saying she should have gone to prison, but she should at least have received the same punishment as General Petraeus.

I don't have a problem with anyone saying Hillary violated some agency administrative policies and skirted the ethical boundaries.


That is not the tale we were being told for 30 years about the Clintons by Fox and Limbaugh. We were being told the Clintons were committing crimes that made Nixon look like an amateur

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don't have a problem with anyone saying Hillary violated some agency administrative policies and skirted the ethical boundaries.


That is not the tale we were being told for 30 years about the Clintons by Fox and Limbaugh. We were being told the Clintons were committing crimes that made Nixon look like an amateur

Classified material protocols are not "administrative policies". It's Federal law. Ask General Patreaus, Manning and Snowden.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/46/503.59
§ 503.59 Safeguarding classified information.

(a) All classified information shall be afforded a level of protection against unauthorized disclosure commensurate with its level of classification.

(b) Whenever classified material is removed from a storage facility, such material shall not be left unattended and shall be protected by attaching an appropriate classified document cover sheet to each classified document.

(c) Classified information being transmitted from one Commission office to another shall be protected with a classified document cover sheet and hand delivered by an appropriately cleared person to another appropriately cleared person.

(d) Classified information shall be made available to a recipient only when the authorized holder of the classified information has determined that:

(1) The prospective recipient has a valid security clearance at least commensurate with the level of classification of the information; and

(2) The prospective recipient requires access to the information in order to perform or assist in a lawful and authorized governmental function.

(e) The requirement in paragraph (d)(2) of this section, that access to classified information may be granted only to individuals who have a need-to-know the information, may be waived for persons who:

(1) Are engaged in historical research projects, or

(2) Previously have occupied policy-making positions to which they were appointed by the President.

 

[Cypress]

Classified material protocols are not "administrative policies". It's Federal law. Ask General Patreaus, Manning and Snowden.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/46/503.59
§ 503.59 Safeguarding classified information.

If you are going to say she is guilty of a crime, you need to point to the indictment and conviction she received.


I am not buying any claims she is a criminal mastermind who spent decades one step ahead of the law and successfully outwitting the keystone cops

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you are going to say she is guilty of a crime, you need to point to the indictment and conviction she received.


I am not buying any claims she is a criminal mastermind who spent decades one step ahead of the law and successfully outwitting the keystone cops

So both OJ and Trump are innocent of their previous crimes. Got it.

Fine. The fact remains she broke the law and got a pass because she was the DNC nominee.

 

[Cypress]

So both OJ and Trump are innocent of their previous crimes. Got it.

Fine. The fact remains she broke the law and got a pass because she was the DNC nominee.

OJ was indicted on felony charges because there was sufficient evidence. Hillary never was indicted.

Citing the most extreme and anomalous criminal mistrial in U.S. history is not a convincing argument that Hillary must have been guilty of felonies.

We are just going to disagree on this

 

[Dutch Uncle]

OJ was indicted on felony charges because there was sufficient evidence. Hillary never was indicted.

Citing the most extreme and anomalous criminal mistrial in U.S. history is not a convincing argument that Hillary must have been guilty of felonies.

We are just going to disagree on this

He wasn't convicted. Neither was Slick Willy during his impeachment even though you and I are both smart enough to know he perjured himself to hide his one-of-many adulterous affairs. Neither was Trump for his strongarming Ukraine to take down a political opponent nor for 1/6.

You like facts a lot and so do I. Let's go by the numbers, not political rhetoric to ensure one political party is scoring more points than the other. This isn't sports, it's literal life and death for many American citizens.

Hillary wasn't stupid, but she was paranoid enough to not want to leave a paper trail. She worked on legislation after Nixon about reporting official government documents, both paper and electronics. These rules only applied to government systems, not private servers. (Which I think should be disallowed). Hillary knew exactly what she was doing and thought herself above the law when it came to her sending classified documents threw her server as part of her official functions as Secretary of State. She wasn't even censured for what has put many military personnel in prison.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...p-s-conversation-ukraine-s-president-n1058581
Read Trump's phone call with Ukraine president: Full text
Trump is facing allegations that he tried to strong-arm a foreign leader into launching an investigation that might hurt Democratic contender Joe Biden.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/bill-clinton-impeachment-explained/index.html
Why was Bill Clinton impeached?

Republicans distilled those down into four articles of impeachment. Two of them – for perjury in depositions other than the grand jury and for obstructing Congress – didn’t make it out of the House of Representatives. But Clinton was impeached for perjury after he lied to the grand jury in the Jones case, and also for obstruction of justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump
Second impeachment of Donald Trump

The House of Representatives of the 117th U.S. Congress adopted one article of impeachment against Trump of "incitement of insurrection", stating that he had incited the January 6 attack of the U.S. Capitol. These events were preceded by attempts by Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election, as well as his pushing of voter fraud conspiracy theories on his social media channels before, during, and after the election.[5]

A single article of impeachment charging Trump with "incitement of insurrection" against the U.S. government and "lawless action at the Capitol" was introduced to the House of Representatives on January 11, 2021.[6] The article was introduced with more than 200 co-sponsors.[7] The same day, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi gave Vice President Mike Pence an ultimatum to invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to assume the role of acting president within 24 hours, or the House would proceed with impeachment proceedings.[8][9] Pence said that he would not do so in a letter to Pelosi the following day, arguing that to do so would not "be in the best interest of our Nation or consistent with our Constitution".[10] Nevertheless, a House majority, including Republican Adam Kinzinger, passed a resolution urging Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment.[11]

 

[Cypress]

He wasn't convicted. Neither was Slick Willy during his impeachment even though you and I are both smart enough to know he perjured himself to hide his one-of-many adulterous affairs. Neither was Trump for his strongarming Ukraine to take down a political opponent nor for 1/6.

You like facts a lot and so do I. Let's go by the numbers, not political rhetoric to ensure one political party is scoring more points than the other. This isn't sports, it's literal life and death for many American citizens.

Hillary wasn't stupid, but she was paranoid enough to not want to leave a paper trail. She worked on legislation after Nixon about reporting official government documents, both paper and electronics. These rules only applied to government systems, not private servers. (Which I think should be disallowed). Hillary knew exactly what she was doing and thought herself above the law when it came to her sending classified documents threw her server as part of her official functions as Secretary of State. She wasn't even censured for what has put many military personnel in prison.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...p-s-conversation-ukraine-s-president-n1058581
Read Trump's phone call with Ukraine president: Full text
Trump is facing allegations that he tried to strong-arm a foreign leader into launching an investigation that might hurt Democratic contender Joe Biden.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/bill-clinton-impeachment-explained/index.html
Why was Bill Clinton impeached?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump
Second impeachment of Donald Trump

You can't just wish somebody to be guilty of a felony crime and make it be so.

That's what happens in Russia.

People who have forgetten more about the law than you and I have ever learned declined to indict the Clintons and pursue charges in criminal court.


Taking an extreme example of an infamous mistrial and making it through the average benchmark standard to assess guilt and culpability is not a convincing argument

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You can't just wish somebody to be guilty of a felony crime and make it be so.

That's what happens in Russia.

People who have forgetten more about the law than you and I have ever learned declined to indict the Clintons and pursue charges in criminal court.


Taking an extreme example of an infamous mistrial and making it through the average benchmark standard to assess guilt and culpability is not a convincing argument

Correct.

I'll take your word for it.

Agreed. Just like the same type of people failed to impeach Trump...twice.

What extreme example?