The Good Old Days....but for whom?

[Taichiliberal]

Reading all the reactions to the OP from the usual peanut gallery of neocon/teabagger/fibbertarian/maga posters, I can't help but think of the following as an appropriate theme song for them:

 

[cawacko]

Reading all the reactions to the OP from the usual peanut gallery of neocon/teabagger/fibbertarian/maga posters, I can't help but think of the following as an appropriate theme song for them:

My question is how do you explain California voting in both 1996 and 2020 against AA?

Biden won California by 30% yet AA went down to defeat 58% to 42%. So it’s far from just all those you listed who didn’t support it.

We’re also talking about a state is almost half LatinX and an Asian population of 15%. I’ve heard people argue one can be a P.O.C., a Democrat and still be anti-black.

But from what I’ve seen in California, attitudes towards AA don’t fall neatly along partisan lines

 

[Flash]

Man, you are just babbling BS! The chronology of the posts shows the objective reader EXACTLY what you said and in the context it was said.

The cornerstones of your screeds that totally undermines them: I'm not sure why the recent decision even applied to private universities since the 14th only applies to state action. I will have to check the decision.


SCOTUS latest decision on AA was brought on via a HARVARD law suit, genius. Last time I checked, Harvard was PRIVATE institution on record. That you didn't know this speaks volumes as to how little you understand about this subject beyond the mantras and talking points of what you catch on right wing media.

Then you seriously lie your butt off by saying you often do not post your opinion ... right after you post an OPINION regarding trying to revise what the 14th amendment entails regarding equal protection under the las (again, something the SCOTUS ruling details).

Your proud ignorance on the matter just verifies my assessment: you really don't know WTF is going on beyond having a knee jerk reaction that your social conscious white privilege is somehow being threatened or violated. For someone who has stated to "have no real opinion" you sure have spent a LOT of time an effort trying to pass it of as fact based logic.

You're done....you've got nothing more than the SOS in various forms. Prattle on without fear of retort from me here, as it would be a waste of my time to rehash what has already been covered.

Your partisan bias shows a complete lack of understanding of basic constitutional law.

 

[Taichiliberal]

My question is how do you explain California voting in both 1996 and 2020 against AA?

Biden won California by 30% yet AA went down to defeat 58% to 42%. So it’s far from just all those you listed who didn’t support it.

We’re also talking about a state is almost half LatinX and an Asian population of 15%. I’ve heard people argue one can be a P.O.C., a Democrat and still be anti-black.

But from what I’ve seen in California, attitudes towards AA don’t fall neatly along partisan lines

I'll let them fill in the blanks:

How California serves as an example for a post-affirmative action world


https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/07/03/affirmative-action-supreme-court-california

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You have the memory of a goldfish. During the LA Rodney King riots, Blacks tried to loot Asian businesses in places like Garden Grove. The Asians took to the rooftops of their businesses and simply shot any Black trying to break in and loot the place. The Vietnam boat refugees after our withdrawal from Vietnam did the same thing to Blacks in the Hunter's Point area of San Fran.

They didn't put up with that shit for a second. They took care of business.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/roo...er a traffic violation was captured on camera.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roof-koreans-meme-know-real-story_n_5ee110a1c5b6d5bafa5604f3

Translation: All blacks are criminals and should be shot on sight.

Racist example #1 for today, Terry.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Translation: All blacks are criminals and should be shot on sight.

Racist example #1 for today, Terry.

Of which has NOTHING to do with the OP, or the exposed hypocrisy of the MAGA mooks and GOP gov't being okay with legacy students but condemning affirmative action students. They just detour anywhere when they can't logically defend their position.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Of which has NOTHING to do with the OP, or the exposed hypocrisy of the MAGA mooks and GOP gov't being okay with legacy students but condemning affirmative action students. They just detour anywhere when they can't logically defend their position.

Searching proves that Terry has a consistent pattern of derailing any complaint about Republican Euro-American males with multiple examples of whataboutism which are heavily tinged with racial overtones.

 

[cawacko]

Of which has NOTHING to do with the OP, or the exposed hypocrisy of the MAGA mooks and GOP gov't being okay with legacy students but condemning affirmative action students. They just detour anywhere when they can't logically defend their position.

Sorry man but that’s a very facile statement.

For starters there are people on the right who don’t support legacy admissions. There are also plenty on the left who do support them.

And most #MAGA supporters are uneducated folks living in/near trailer parks right? You think those folks went to Harvard or other elite Universities? You think they really care if the kids of the likely liberal elite get special legacy advantages to Ivy League schools?

The one argument they could make is the donors of those families are the reason these schools have the endowment they do which could, in theory, get a largely discounted education for someone poor like my kid. But I don’t they think of it in those terms.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Of which has NOTHING to do with the OP, or the exposed hypocrisy of the MAGA mooks and GOP gov't being okay with legacy students but condemning affirmative action students. They just detour anywhere when they can't logically defend their position.

Sorry man but that’s a very facile statement.

For starters there are people on the right who don’t support legacy admissions. There are also plenty on the left who do support them.

And most #MAGA supporters are uneducated folks living in/near trailer parks right? You think those folks went to Harvard or other elite Universities? You think they really care if the kids of the likely liberal elite get special legacy advantages to Ivy League schools?

The one argument they could make is the donors of those families are the reason these schools have the endowment they do which could, in theory, get a largely discounted education for someone poor like my kid. But I don’t they think of it in those terms.

Nice try, but your assessment only has merit if I asserted or implied what you stated...of which I didn't.

For starters I specified MAGA folks and their government counter parts as being the hypocrites regarding legacy students. I never said ALL conservatives or right wingers were such, nor did I imply such. The current problem is that the MAGA crowd have become the face of the GOP and conservatism in general in the MSM, so it's easy to ASSUME that when one refers to them they are referring to all conservatives and republicans. You should never assume, especially since I'm always quite direct in what I say.

Wrong. MAGA folk run the gambit in society....it's the MSM that consistently lends the bull horn to the most mentally limited, who seem to be the most vocal. Also, clods like Greene, Tuberville, Jordan, Graham and Bobert aren't helping matters in that respect. So once again, you ASSUME my mindset when I DID NOT STATE OR ALLUDE TO SUCH.

A bogus argument, as history has proven otherwise.

 

[cawacko]

Nice try, but your assessment only has merit if I asserted or implied what you stated...of which I didn't.

For starters I specified MAGA folks and their government counter parts as being the hypocrites regarding legacy students. I never said ALL conservatives or right wingers were such, nor did I imply such. The current problem is that the MAGA crowd have become the face of the GOP and conservatism in general in the MSM, so it's easy to ASSUME that when one refers to them they are referring to all conservatives and republicans. You should never assume, especially since I'm always quite direct in what I say.

Wrong. MAGA folk run the gambit in society....it's the MSM that consistently lends the bull horn to the most mentally limited, who seem to be the most vocal. Also, clods like Greene, Tuberville, Jordan, Graham and Bobert aren't helping matters in that respect. So once again, you ASSUME my mindset when I DID NOT STATE OR ALLUDE TO SUCH.

A bogus argument, as history has proven otherwise.

We are having two different discussions then, which can definitely happen, because attitudes towards AA and legacy admissions aren’t set in stone based on one’s political beliefs.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Nice try, but your assessment only has merit if I asserted or implied what you stated...of which I didn't.

For starters I specified MAGA folks and their government counter parts as being the hypocrites regarding legacy students. I never said ALL conservatives or right wingers were such, nor did I imply such. The current problem is that the MAGA crowd have become the face of the GOP and conservatism in general in the MSM, so it's easy to ASSUME that when one refers to them they are referring to all conservatives and republicans. You should never assume, especially since I'm always quite direct in what I say.

Wrong. MAGA folk run the gambit in society....it's the MSM that consistently lends the bull horn to the most mentally limited, who seem to be the most vocal. Also, clods like Greene, Tuberville, Jordan, Graham and Bobert aren't helping matters in that respect. So once again, you ASSUME my mindset when I DID NOT STATE OR ALLUDE TO SUCH.

A bogus argument, as history has proven otherwise.

We are having two different discussions then, which can definitely happen, because attitudes towards AA and legacy admissions aren’t set in stone based on one’s political beliefs.

You are assessing what might be, I'm pointing to what is. Yep, two different discussions or which I'm only participating in one.

 

[cawacko]

You are assessing what might be, I'm pointing to what is. Yep, two different discussions or which I'm only participating in one.

I may have gone off course from what you are talking about, but what I said is factual. You have people from all political stripes that don’t support AA. You have people from all political stripes that don’t support legacy admissions. You have people from all political stripes that support legacy admissions.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You are assessing what might be, I'm pointing to what is. Yep, two different discussions or which I'm only participating in one.

I may have gone off course from what you are talking about, but what I said is factual. You have people from all political stripes that don’t support AA. You have people from all political stripes that don’t support legacy admissions. You have people from all political stripes that support legacy admissions.

Let's get things straight: YOU were recently responding to what I said to Dutch regarding T.A. Gardner's meme. Back track that conversation and you'll see I'm right. As for what you said here, essentially you're as that was already addressed by me to either you or another poster.

 

[cawacko]

Let's get things straight: YOU were recently responding to what I said to Dutch regarding T.A. Gardner's meme. Back track that conversation and you'll see I'm right. As for what you said here, essentially you're as that was already addressed by me to either you or another poster.

If I lost track of the conversation and was responding to something else then that was my bad.

 

[Taichiliberal]

If I lost track of the conversation and was responding to something else then that was my bad.

Coolness.

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

Looks like Thaichi lost again. Gender confused democrat.