Another MAGA talking point shot down!

[QP!]

Plenty of people told Trump there was fraud.

That is the problem with Smiths case.

He cannot prove what Trump thought.

He does not have to prove what 'Trump thought'.

He has to prove there was an expectation of what Trump should have known.

... only requires the basic intent that the actor knew or should have known that his action would lead to harmful contact ...


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Jack Smith will make this case hinge on what Trump 'should have known' and put the jury to that test.

The Jury will have decide if it is reasonable for a POTUS to hand pick all his top advisors and legal and other experts (AG, DoJ, FBi, Various department heads) and when ALL OF THEM say 'X did not happen', can that POTUS simply ignore them ALL, and go looking for someone, who holds an opposite view.

The jury will be asked if they think that is reasonable or if Trump 'should have known', based on that advice.

 

[Yakuda]

And how do we know that, Tink?

Trump and Clinton were at least two, Kennedy was certainly three, and I'll be that there were many more.

I wouldn't even care about that if they did a good job [and the swine-sex was consensual].

Do you always get the pig's, "OK"?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Do you always get the pig's, "OK"?

Porcine libidinousness was never one of my personal traits, Yak, but to each his/her own.

 

[Yakuda]

Porcine libidinousness was never one of my personal traits, Yak, but to each his/her own.

So I'll take that as a "No". You're a perv and a perp.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

So I'll take that as a "No". You're a perv and a perp.

Everything has to be a "take" for you, Yakky, as accurate comprehension is clearly too big an ask.

I'm not you.
I definitely have that going for me.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Face the nation????? Really? Lmfao

Yakuda????? Really? LMAO!

 

[Yakuda]

Yakuda????? Really? LMAO!

What you think of me doesn't change how fucked up face the nation is. Why do you people use such faulty logic?

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

This should pretty much size Trump up for all future references.

When Trump asked Mike Pence to reject the legitimate delegates and accept the fake delegates, Mike Pence told Donald Trump, "I have no legal authority to do that, according to the Constitution"!

Trump told Mike Pence, "You are just too honest of a person"!

Next!

 

[Jarod]

Plenty of people told Trump there was fraud.

That is the problem with Smiths case.

He cannot prove what Trump thought.

He does not have to prove what Trump thought. Do you have brain damage?

 

[Jarod]

You sure Trump was the one who did the fake electors?

That is something Smith is going to have to prove and since he had no direct hand in it that will be tough.

Smith will need one of the people that did organize to prove that they were doing it under orders from Trump.

Smith also needs to show that they had specific intent to vote for Trump regardless, again, another very difficult thing to prove in a court of law.

Why would Smith need to show that "they had specific intent to vote for Trump"?

 

[Jarod]

Many people told him he didn't also.

That is Smiths problem.

Even if people told Trump he lost did he believe it himself?

If Trump didn't think he did then that's a major thorn in Smiths conspiracy theory.

Let me try to explain something to you in a very simple comparison.

If I think my bank defrauded me out of money, does that give me a right to go in with a gun and demand my money? NO.
I can go to court and demand my money. I can tell people about it. I can write my congressman.

It does not give me the right to commit a crime.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Let me try to explain something to you in a very simple comparison.

If I think my bank defrauded me out of money, does that give me a right to go in with a gun and demand my money? NO.
I can go to court and demand my money. I can tell people about it. I can write my congressman.

It does not give me the right to commit a crime.

Trump didn't commit a crime.

 

[Jarod]

And that pig always wears a pant suit.

I do not think we have ever had a president who wore something other than a pant suit. Have we ever had one who wore a skirt suit?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Why would Smith need to show that "they had specific intent to vote for Trump"?

Well if they didn't then they wouldn't be fake electors and there would be no conspiracy.

They would just be electors.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

He does not have to prove what Trump thought. Do you have brain damage?

Then why is he bringing in people who told Trump the election wasn't real if it doesn't have to do with what Trump thought?

 

[Yakuda]

I do not think we have ever had a president who wore something other than a pant suit. Have we ever had one who wore a skirt suit?

Well at least you know she a pig. I love agreement.

Try following the conversation

 

[Tinkerpeach]

He does not have to prove what 'Trump thought'.

He has to prove there was an expectation of what Trump should have known.



Jack Smith will make this case hinge on what Trump 'should have known' and put the jury to that test.

The Jury will have decide if it is reasonable for a POTUS to hand pick all his top advisors and legal and other experts (AG, DoJ, FBi, Various department heads) and when ALL OF THEM say 'X did not happen', can that POTUS simply ignore them ALL, and go looking for someone, who holds an opposite view.

The jury will be asked if they think that is reasonable or if Trump 'should have known', based on that advice.

Trump got plenty of advice saying it wasn't legitimate also.

How is Smith going to weigh one side over the other in a court of law?

It's not a numbers game.

Believe me, if this is the argument Smith is making the legal defense is already lining up people who gave Trump the advice it was an illegitimate election,

 

[Tinkerpeach]

And how do we know that, Tink?

Trump and Clinton were at least two, Kennedy was certainly three, and I'll be that there were many more.

I wouldn't even care about that if they did a good job [and the swine-sex was consensual].

Possibly.

I hear presidents have a thing for pigs.

 

[Yakuda]

Possibly.

I hear presidents have a thing for pigs.

Clinton married one.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Clinton married one.

Yes he did.

Although at times she can resemble a rat or a snake also.

Sometimes even the devil.