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[SmarterthanYou]

I agree. The guns are coming from the US not Russia. The US drug lords have more reason to arm the mexican gangs.

Then you're an idiot.

why don't you try researching the necessary steps in obtaining a machine gun legally in this country, then figure out just how damn hard it is to illegally obtain a single machine gun in this country. When you're done figuring that out, multiply it by 100, and you MIGHT have an idea of just how ludicrous your supposition (talking point) is that people can buy automatic weapons by the truckload at gunshows across the country.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Then you're an idiot.

why don't you try researching the necessary steps in obtaining a machine gun legally in this country, then figure out just how damn hard it is to illegally obtain a single machine gun in this country. When you're done figuring that out, multiply it by 100, and you MIGHT have an idea of just how ludicrous your supposition (talking point) is that people can buy automatic weapons by the truckload at gunshows across the country.

No, you are naive. I also know the majority of guns in the hands of Canadian gangs(machine guns included) are coming from the USA. I know alot about the Canadian underworld. I was raised around it.

It might be hard for regular citizens to obtain a machine gun but not for arm dealers. And there would be less heat on them selling outside of the country than in the country itself.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Que? STY was in agreement with me. And I'm pretty sure the Mexican cartels arms themselves, whether with old Soviet weapons from the cold war or old American weapons from the cold war. In either case, it does not matter and is not connected in any way shape or form to the American gun industry.

lol. How many AK-47's are in Mexico? They are all modern military style weapons. They have more firepower than the Mexican police. Which points to a military source.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

lol. How many AK-47's are in Mexico? They are all modern military style weapons. They have more firepower than the Mexican police. Which points to a military source.

Que? I just said they're almost certainly guns from the cold war era, when both the U.S. and Russia supplied guerrillas all over South America.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

No, you are naive. I also know the majority of guns in the hands of Canadian gangs(machine guns included) are coming from the USA. I know alot about the Canadian underworld. I was raised around it.

It might be hard for regular citizens to obtain a machine gun but not for arm dealers. And there would be less heat on them selling outside of the country than in the country itself.

So you'd have something to back up your claim? Because my experience with Canadian outlaws (which is admittedly limited to the motorcycle clubs) shows ALL their guns are from Canada.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

No, you are naive. I also know the majority of guns in the hands of Canadian gangs(machine guns included) are coming from the USA. I know alot about the Canadian underworld. I was raised around it.

It might be hard for regular citizens to obtain a machine gun but not for arm dealers. And there would be less heat on them selling outside of the country than in the country itself.

you simply have no clue about firearms acquisition in the US. Machine gun production in this country is not easy because of the prohibition and tight regulations. It's extremely unlikely there is some black market manufacturer and near impossible to be able to produce AND distribute those illicit weapons around.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No, you are naive. I also know the majority of guns in the hands of Canadian gangs(machine guns included) are coming from the USA. I know alot about the Canadian underworld. I was raised around it.

It might be hard for regular citizens to obtain a machine gun but not for arm dealers. And there would be less heat on them selling outside of the country than in the country itself.

You are such an idiot.
You have absolutely no clue as to the regulations and such that surround the purchase, sale, and/or transfer of a "machine gun".

You being a fluffer for a porn manufacturer, doesn't mean you grew up around the Canadian underworld.

 

[Topspin]

spot eating the spoon fed drool from your left wing hack sites....even if america didn't make any guns, they would still have guns....

it is moronic to thing all the guns come solely from america guns are made in over 80 countries...but you go on hating america

Spurt all national media are saying US guns, it common knowledge to those not sucking NRA balls.

 

[wiseones2cents]

So you'd have something to back up your claim? Because my experience with Canadian outlaws (which is admittedly limited to the motorcycle clubs) shows ALL their guns are from Canada.

Nope. From the USA. It is a known fact. As is a fact that America arms dictators around the world. America has the biggest arms racket in the world.

Much of it is disguised as "military aid" but we know they arm corrupt rulers around the world to protect their assets which is usually valuable resources, like oil.

Now lets go back to Mexico. This article states that they are coming from the USA and China(not Russia). But I doubt China deals anywhere near as the USA. These guns are coming from the American military. The cartels have opened up markets in China but nothing compared to what they have in the USA.

http://www.articlesbase.com/causes-...pons-coming-from-china-and-the-us-458135.html

 

[wiseones2cents]

you simply have no clue about firearms acquisition in the US. Machine gun production in this country is not easy because of the prohibition and tight regulations. It's extremely unlikely there is some black market manufacturer and near impossible to be able to produce AND distribute those illicit weapons around.

There is tight regulations on Cociane and Heroin possession, yet, it is everywhere.

There definitly is a black market and the source is a military one. Their origin is the US military.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Spurt all national media are saying US guns, it common knowledge to those not sucking NRA balls.

Thats because the mainstream media has a huge hard on for gun control and criminal protection zones.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

There is tight regulations on Cociane and Heroin possession, yet, it is everywhere.

There definitly is a black market and the source is a military one. Their origin is the US military.

so you're saying that the US government is supplying illegal arms to the drug cartels in mexico?

 

[Topspin]

so you're saying that the US government is supplying illegal arms to the drug cartels in mexico?

do you even know what you think, I think you shouldn't have dissed school.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Spurt all national media are saying US guns, it common knowledge to those not sucking NRA balls.

So back it up. Any link will do.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Nope. From the USA. It is a known fact. As is a fact that America arms dictators around the world. America has the biggest arms racket in the world.

France, England, China, and Russia would like a word with you.

Much of it is disguised as "military aid" but we know they arm corrupt rulers around the world to protect their assets which is usually valuable resources, like oil.

Link? Anything?

Now lets go back to Mexico. This article states that they are coming from the USA and China(not Russia). But I doubt China deals anywhere near as the USA.

Again, Link or anything else.

These guns are coming from the American military. The cartels have opened up markets in China but nothing compared to what they have in the USA.

So you can base this off of evidence?

http://www.articlesbase.com/causes-...pons-coming-from-china-and-the-us-458135.html

Other than massive typos and misspellings, it doesn't really offer much.

 

[Topspin]

So back it up. Any link will do.

I know you don't read or watch the news much, sorry

 

[wiseones2cents]

so you're saying that the US government is supplying illegal arms to the drug cartels in mexico?

Not directly. Indirectly. Its like crooked cops that steal drug stashes from the evidence lockers. You have some crooked military personel that are smuggling the weapons out.

Though, I also know that the US government is in on it. As they are in the drug trafficking.

I remember Bush Sr. threatening to invade Colombia if they didn't stop the cocaine trafficking.

Though did they? Cocaine trafficking has increased big time with no more mention of invasion.

So what was Bush talking about? Later I found that there were other organized crime members from other countries trying to bypass the US organized crime members and go straight to the source. The USA was just protecting its assets. Just comes to show you what control the criminals have over the US government. Though its not control. They are both in on it.

Just like they were both in on the gambling racket in Cuba. And when Cuba had a rebellion? Both the mob and the US government waged war on Cuba.

Covert operations with the CIA and the Mafia working together.....

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

I know you don't read or watch the news much, sorry

Then enlighten me if it's so easy to point to.

 

[wiseones2cents]

France, England, China, and Russia would like a word with you.

Even though these countries still have colonial countries to arm?Especially France and England?They are small potatoes compared to the USA.

The USA dominates almost 50%(or more) of the arms industry.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/arms_trade/pdfs/chapter4_colour.pdf

Link? Anything?

LOL. This shows your ignorance or you live in a bubble. The USA has the largest defence(military)spending in the world. Much of this is used for Military aid. And

Again, Link or anything else. So you can base this off of evidence?

Yes I did submit a link.

Other than massive typos and misspellings, it doesn't really offer much.

How ignorant and expected. You read something that disagrees with your beliefs and you disregard it.LOL Almost every report points to the USA as the culprit.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487911,00.html

The cartels are obtaining arms from America by using "straw man" buyers, who legally purchase weapons at gun shops and gun shows in the U.S. The weapons cross into Mexico, where border security is much weaker heading south of the border than it is going north.


Authorities don't know how many firearms are sneaked across the border, but the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) says more than 7,700 guns sold in America were traced to Mexico last year, up from 3,300 the year before and about 2,100 in 2006. Mexican authorities say 90 percent of smuggled weapons come from the United States.

In Northern Mexico, high-powered American weapons have enabled drug cartels to control whole territories. There is the Colt AR-15, the civilian version of the military M-16. And there is the "cuernos de chivo" — Spanish for goat horns . . . the 30-shot curved banana clip of the AK-47.

 

[Topspin]

most of these NRA gun nuts didn't go to college so you really can't expect a lot of reasoned thinking.