New interview with Devon Archer makes things crystal clear. Joke participated.

T. A. Gardner

T. A. Gardner

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Well, all the Democrat and Leftist dissembling is laid to waste. In a new interview, Devon Archer clearly states that Joke not only knew what his son was doing as "business" using the term loosely, but was an ACTIVE PARTICIPANT. It seems the Democrats on that congressional committee were either delusional, or lying in their responses to that issue.

Joke participated.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...investigation-joe-biden-calls-an-abuse-archer
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, all the Democrat and Leftist dissembling is laid to waste. In a new interview, Devon Archer clearly states that Joke not only knew what his son was doing as "business" using the term loosely, but was an ACTIVE PARTICIPANT. It seems the Democrats on that congressional committee were either delusional, or lying in their responses to that issue.

Joke participated.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...investigation-joe-biden-calls-an-abuse-archer
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Archer's actual words:

Archer said he had “no knowledge” of whether Biden altered any U.S. foreign policy while he was vice president to benefit his son.

When flat-out asked if he is aware of any wrongdoing by the then-vice president, Archer said, “No, I’m not aware of any.”

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“Were you ever made aware of Mr. Zlochevsky paying $5 million to two different Bidens?” Goldman asked.

“No, I’m not. I would assume he’s probably talking about me and Hunter, but I don’t know. But I don’t know anything about those five,” Archer replied.

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When he would overhear the vice president and Hunter Biden talking on the phone, the conversations were “not related to commercial business, politics, that kind,” Archer said.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Archer's actual words:

Archer said he had “no knowledge” of whether Biden altered any U.S. foreign policy while he was vice president to benefit his son.

When flat-out asked if he is aware of any wrongdoing by the then-vice president, Archer said, “No, I’m not aware of any.”

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“Were you ever made aware of Mr. Zlochevsky paying $5 million to two different Bidens?” Goldman asked.

“No, I’m not. I would assume he’s probably talking about me and Hunter, but I don’t know. But I don’t know anything about those five,” Archer replied.

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When he would overhear the vice president and Hunter Biden talking on the phone, the conversations were “not related to commercial business, politics, that kind,” Archer said.
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Oh... So now it's not that Joke wasn't aware of his son's business dealings, and not a case of not being involved, but rather one that he didn't do anything to Devon Archer's knowledge beyond being aware of what his son was doing and talking to his son's business partners and associates...

You're just hair splitting. This is moving the goal posts. Joke Biden knew what his son was up to, and participated. The extent of that participation isn't clear--YET. I have no doubt, as buffoonish as Bagman and Joke are that's coming next...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Oh... So now it's not that Joke wasn't aware of his son's business dealings, and not a case of not being involved, but rather one that he didn't do anything to Devon Archer's knowledge beyond being aware of what his son was doing and talking to his son's business partners and associates...

You're just hair splitting. This is moving the goal posts. Joke Biden knew what his son was up to, and participated. The extent of that participation isn't clear--YET. I have no doubt, as buffoonish as Bagman and Joke are that's coming next...
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Hair splitting? Geez.. who is the one here trying to argue that it is criminal for a father to be aware of his son's business dealings?


But, you know, Hunter13
spoke to his dad every day, right?14
And so in certain circumstances, when you're in -- you know, if his dad calls him at15
dinner and he picks up the phone, then there's a conversation. And the, you know, the16
conversation is generally about the weather and, you know, what it's like in Norway or17
Paris or wherever he may be. But that was -- yeah, that happened.
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It's a crime to talk about the weather in Paris or Norway?

mean, on any of the specifics, like, from a blanket perspective, it was15
always, you know, what's the -- you know, not necessarily the weather, but, you know,16
there's no -- there was no -- and I think you have to understand that there was no17
business conversation about a cap table or a fee or anything like that. It was, you know,18
just general niceties and, you know, conversation in general, you know, about the19
geography, about the weather, whatever it may be.
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It's a crime to talk about the weather in China?

It's funny, the only testimony that Hunter talked about business seemed to come from Jim Jordan.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Oh... So now it's not that Joke wasn't aware of his son's business dealings, and not a case of not being involved, but rather one that he didn't do anything to Devon Archer's knowledge beyond being aware of what his son was doing and talking to his son's business partners and associates...

You're just hair splitting. This is moving the goal posts. Joke Biden knew what his son was up to, and participated. The extent of that participation isn't clear--YET. I have no doubt, as buffoonish as Bagman and Joke are that's coming next...
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Being on the phone with one's family member isn't a crime.

All this "Biden crime family" hoo-hah is just GOP desperation.

Conservatives are clearly butthurt because their Golden Calf Trump got caught and was impeached twice, and now they are desperate for some payback.
 
Yakuda said:
Where?
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When something doesn't exist, how am I supposed to show you were it is?

Where in the transcript does Archer say that Hunter Biden talked business with his dad and paid his dad in exchange for getting Shokin fired?

Archer actually testified that Burisma didn't want Shokin fired since he wasn't investigating anything.

o -- yes. I was -- the narrative that was spun to me, quite frankly, just to13
be -- and I remember this because, obviously, it's -- the narrative that was spun to me was14
that Shokin was under control and that whoever the next person that was brought in15
was -- you know, the fact that he was -- this is the total, this is the narrative spun to me,16
that Shokin being fired was a -- was not good, because he was like under control as17
relates to Mykola.18
I have no way to verify that. And that was spun to me from various folks in D.C.,19
not Hunter specifically, but that was what I was led to believe.
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
When something doesn't exist, how am I supposed to show you were it is?

Where in the transcript does Archer say that Hunter Biden talked business with his dad and paid his dad in exchange for getting Shokin fired?

Archer actually testified that Burisma didn't want Shokin fired since he wasn't investigating anything.
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Are you mentally deranged? What did you claim the transcript proves? Good Lord you can't even follow your own train of thought.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Hair splitting? Geez.. who is the one here trying to argue that it is criminal for a father to be aware of his son's business dealings?
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No, I'm the one arguing Joke Biden is lying about his never being involved in any way. That has consistently been his and his staff's version of this: No involvement whatsoever. Now, you, like them, are changing that lie to he took no active part in those dealings.

It's a crime to talk about the weather in Paris or Norway?
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For half-an-hour with some business executive you have no personal relationship to who your son put on the phone out-of-the-blue? Yea, sure. The VP of the United States doesn't have anything better to do but chat up the weather and other random stuff with some random person their son put on speaker phone with you...

It's a crime to talk about the weather in China?
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See above.

It's funny, the only testimony that Hunter talked about business seemed to come from Jim Jordan.
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That's a lie too. See the previous video I posted.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Being on the phone with one's family member isn't a crime.
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He was on speaker phone with his son and his son's business partners.

All this "Biden crime family" hoo-hah is just GOP desperation.
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Didn't make that comment or anything like it. The above is simply a red herring diversion in an irrelevant appeal to the stone.

Conservatives are clearly butthurt because their Golden Calf Trump got caught and was impeached twice, and now they are desperate for some payback.
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More ad hominem and deflection in an attempt to create a red herring.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
When something doesn't exist, how am I supposed to show you were it is?

Where in the transcript does Archer say that Hunter Biden talked business with his dad and paid his dad in exchange for getting Shokin fired?

Archer actually testified that Burisma didn't want Shokin fired since he wasn't investigating anything.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Wacky Yakki to get back to you with any quotes that backs up his ignorance...
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Again, being on speaker phone is NOT a crime.
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Again, a deflection. Joke Biden lied his ass off about not having ANYTHING to do with his son's business affairs. He did have things to do with it. The question on the table is, to what extent was he involved? For example, was he "The Big Guy"" and getting 10%. That seems entirely plausible right now. Once we know the details of his involvement, what Joke did and was doing could have included criminal activities.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Again, a deflection. Joke Biden lied his ass off about not having ANYTHING to do with his son's business affairs. He did have things to do with it. The question on the table is, to what extent was he involved? For example, was he "The Big Guy"" and getting 10%. That seems entirely plausible right now. Once we know the details of his involvement, what Joke did and was doing could have included criminal activities.
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If lying were a crime, then Biden would be in the cell right next to Trump.

Too bad for you Biden haters lying is NOT a crime.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Being on the phone with one's family member isn't a crime.

All this "Biden crime family" hoo-hah is just GOP desperation.

Conservatives are clearly butthurt because their Golden Calf Trump got caught and was impeached twice, and now they are desperate for some payback.
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You forgot the blatant hypocrisy re: Trump's kids (and Trump himself TBH), all of which clearly benefited financially from their father/in-law being president. Two of whom got cushy do-nothing jobs in the administration.

Meanwhile Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm.

They'd have a leg to stand on if they could just prove any wrongdoing on Bidens part, but all Comer can say is he "hopes" he'll be able to.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Again, a deflection. Joke Biden lied his ass off about not having ANYTHING to do with his son's business affairs. He did have things to do with it. The question on the table is, to what extent was he involved? For example, was he "The Big Guy"" and getting 10%. That seems entirely plausible right now. Once we know the details of his involvement, what Joke did and was doing could have included criminal activities.
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I didn't realize that Hunter Biden's business was the weather in Paris and Norway.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Archer's actual words:

Archer said he had “no knowledge” of whether Biden altered any U.S. foreign policy while he was vice president to benefit his son.

When flat-out asked if he is aware of any wrongdoing by the then-vice president, Archer said, “No, I’m not aware of any.”

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“Were you ever made aware of Mr. Zlochevsky paying $5 million to two different Bidens?” Goldman asked.

“No, I’m not. I would assume he’s probably talking about me and Hunter, but I don’t know. But I don’t know anything about those five,” Archer replied.

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When he would overhear the vice president and Hunter Biden talking on the phone, the conversations were “not related to commercial business, politics, that kind,” Archer said.
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But, but, but, Tucker said ……….
 
Mr.Badguy said:
You forgot the blatant hypocrisy re: Trump's kids (and Trump himself TBH), all of which clearly benefited financially from their father/in-law being president. Two of whom got cushy do-nothing jobs in the administration.

Meanwhile Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm.

They'd have a leg to stand on if they could just prove any wrongdoing on Bidens part, but all Comer can say is he "hopes" he'll be able to.
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Now you've jumped into Whataboutism, a variant of the tu-quoque fallacy (aka complex question fallacy).

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