Judge dismisses historic 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre reparations lawsuit

I wonder how much the three paid in taxes since the riot versus how much they received in welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Medicare.
 
volsrock said:
I wonder how much the three paid in taxes since the riot versus how much they received in welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Medicare.
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The Nazi is strong in you, vols.

Are your parents as fucked up as you?
 
When a court dismisses an action, they can either do so “with prejudice” or “without prejudice.” Dismissal with prejudice means that the plaintiff cannot refile the same claim again in that court.

This puppy was dismissed "with prejudice."
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Good for the judge, we need to shit down all these reparations movements before they get started cause it will never end
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This is not like the California case. These survivors were directly affected by the total destruction of the wealthiest black community in the nation.
 
Althea said:
This is not like the California case. These survivors were directly affected by the total destruction of the wealthiest black community in the nation.
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so do you disagree with the law the court based its decision on?......if so, cite the case authority upon which you base your conclusions......
 
volsrock said:
Tulsa, Oklahoma - A historic lawsuit seeking reparations for the last three living survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre has been dismissed with no chance of refiling the case.

https://www.tag24.com/politics/reparations/tulsa-race-massacre-lawsuit-dismissed-2887345



Bravo for this woman judge!

Sick of this garbage.
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If those filing the lawsuit were not personally harmed, then they deserve nothing and the judge was 100% correct in tossing out their lawsuit. In order for the three plaintiffs to prevail they have to show personal harm and what they lost. As children, they were wards of their parents and the loss was their parent's. That makes them ineligible to receive compensation.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
No, the judge said the government cannot be held liable for civil disobedience
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An intellectually vapid argument if that is all it is. Government was a participant in that two day massacre. City officials armed some of the rioters. Law enforcement when it wasn't aiding and abetting sat on its hands.
 
Volsrock and TDAK,

much in the tradition of the old banjofuck [was it CFM or something like that?]

are just blatantly overt racists who revel in being recognized as such.

We don't draw our own blueprints so maybe it isn't their fault.

In any case, they're effective at it

because even with them on ignore,

one can catch their act just through thread titles and quotes alone.

You may be complete assholes, boys,
but at least you're good at it.
 
martin said:
An intellectually vapid argument if that is all it is. Government was a participant in that two day massacre. City officials armed some of the rioters. Law enforcement when it wasn't aiding and abetting sat on its hands.
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Agreed, but the lawsuit contended that government was still harassing African-Americans per the "public nuisance law". The judge isn't saying Americans weren't wronged or that the Tulsa government, including police, weren't part of the problem over 100 years ago. Not a lawyer, but the judge seems to be saying that it's not an ongoing problem covered by the public nuisance law.

By the same logic, the hobos in the "Bonus Army" shot and burned out by the US Army under General MacArthur in July 1932 wouldn't be able to sue under the public nuisance law since it's not an ongoing problem. Only two people were reported to be killed, but it's not the numbers, it's the law that is important here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
On July 28, 1932, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shot at the protestors, and two veterans were wounded and later died. President Herbert Hoover then ordered the U.S. Army to clear the marchers' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded a contingent of infantry and cavalry, supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned.
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https://www.axios.com/2023/07/10/tulsa-race-massacre-reparations-lawsuit-oklahoma
Judge rejects Tulsa Race Massacre reparations lawsuit
The big picture: The survivors stated in the suit that the City of Tulsa broke Oklahoma's public nuisance law when it failed to act after a white mob attacked the Black middle-class Greenwood District of Tulsa, which left an estimated 300 people dead and thousands of homes and businesses torched.

  • They were seeking damages to "recover for unjust enrichment" others had achieved from the "exploitation of the massacre" in a previously thriving area known as the "Black Wall Street" and cited ongoing harm to Black residents in Oklahoma due to the massacre.
  • Fletcher said in 2021 ahead of the 100th anniversary of the massacre that she could still smell the smoke of burning buildings and see "Black bodies lying in the street" and noted she had never seen justice and prayed that one day she would.
  • But Wall sided with the City of Tulsa, which argued in earlier court filings that "simply being connected to a historical event does not provide a person with unlimited rights to seek compensation from any project in any way related to that historical event."

What they're saying: "Black Americans, especially Black Tulsans, carry the weight of intergenerational racial trauma day in and day out — a weight they cannot relinquish or cavalierly dismiss," said Sara Solfanelli, an attorney for the survivors, in a statement to WashPost announcing her intention to appeal.
 
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