True Enemy of the USA

leaningright said:
Wow, this is about as funny as the "Bush planned 9/11" conspiracy theorists. The freemasons do a lot of charity work and Damo is correct about the Shriner's Hospital...it does a tremendous amount of good. I, like someone else mentioned, would never join the group (though I'm not a Catholic) but I recognize the good that the organization does. Also I have been the freemason teacher of the year for the past two years here in our local area.
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They're grooming you.
Someday and that day may never come, you will be asked to return the favor.
 
"We just do good stuff. How could someone as smart as me be deceived?"

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Damocles said:
Yeah, because the high-level guys can hide so well.

First the Freemasons would have to have actual power for them to be drawn towards it, it doesn't make sense to join a powerless charity organization in order to gain power. It's silly.
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But it does make sense to have a charity be your public cover for your secret brotherhood. That's just logical.
 
AssHatZombie said:
But it does make sense to have a charity be your public cover for your secret brotherhood. That's just logical.
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Again, if any power was inherent in the fraternity it would make sense, but it just isn't there. It would be easier to just have meetings among yourselves without the predictable paranoia of the people who simply "feel" that it must be something to fear because they aren't members... "hiding" among people that are constantly suspected by people like you isn't a very good hiding spot.
 
Damocles said:
Again, if any power was inherent in the fraternity it would make sense, but it just isn't there. It would be easier to just have meetings among yourselves without the predictable paranoia of the people who simply "feel" that it must be something to fear because they aren't members... "hiding" among people that are constantly suspected by people like you isn't a very good hiding spot.
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You say the power isn't there. your word isn't good enough.
 
Damocles said:
Again, if any power was inherent in the fraternity it would make sense, but it just isn't there. It would be easier to just have meetings among yourselves without the predictable paranoia of the people who simply "feel" that it must be something to fear because they aren't members... "hiding" among people that are constantly suspected by people like you isn't a very good hiding spot.
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You're getting really close to revealing secrets here, Damo!! :palm:
 
Damocles said:
Right. Because you are paranoid and willing to believe the word of strangers over that of somebody you've known for years. I'm not lying dude. It really isn't there.
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I just believe it's possible that you're not aware of every facet of the organization. Don't take it personally that i don't consider you omnipotent.:good4u:
 
AssHatZombie said:
I just believe it's possible that you're not aware of every facet of the organization. Don't take it personally that i don't consider you omnipotent.:good4u:
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I don't take that personally, I just find it entirely based on the paranoid writings on the interwebs rather than any actual knowledge. If anybody has actual knowledge, once you've accepted on faith the writings of the paranoid, they are now "suspect" or just "lackeys" of the wider conspiracy somehow ascendant in power and stupid enough to hide right where everybody is looking for them. Powerful people of the type you are afraid aren't that stupid and they are drawn to actual power. The Freemasons hold nothing that would attract them for that purpose.
 
Damocles said:
I don't take that personally, I just find it entirely based on the paranoid writings on the interwebs rather than any actual knowledge. If anybody has actual knowledge, once you've accepted on faith the writings of the paranoid, they are now "suspect" or just "lackeys" of the wider conspiracy somehow ascendant in power and stupid enough to hide right where everybody is looking for them. Powerful people of the type you are afraid aren't that stupid and they are drawn to actual power. The Freemasons hold nothing that would attract them for that purpose.
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Stow the faux outrage.

Masons are biased in this discussion just as much as the 'interwebs'.

Ex freemasons have testified to such things. But they're all liars of course. :rolleyes:

Just give it up.

It is possible that you're not privvy to all things going on, isn't it. of course it is. Let's be adults and both acknowledge that we could be wrong.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Stow the faux outrage.

Masons are biased in this discussion just as much as the 'interwebs'.

Ex freemasons have testified to such things. But they're all liars of course. :rolleyes:

Just give it up.

It is possible that you're not privvy to all things going on, isn't it. of course it is. Let's be adults and both acknowledge that we could be wrong.
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What "outrage"? You simply object to the use of logical thought. People who think that they can join and become powerful leave the fraternity and are suspended for not paying their dues soon after. They become disillusioned and disappointed quickly.

Like I said before, anybody with any sort of knowledge about it is either "part of it" or a "lackey" once you place your faith in strangers with a mission over people you actually know. It's all good, as I said I don't take it personally, and I am certainly not "outraged." I find it difficult to get emotional over interwebs postings...

One thing that I know for certain. I know more about the fraternity than anybody on the web attempting to incite fear of old men with charity checks.
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. the fed is to create a totalitarian society.

When some people have the power to literally create money out of thin air, it creates an unfair power inequity in society. The military industrial complex which springs up around the points of money creation suddenly have the power to rob all resources from the regular population, and the power to seize martial control and consign the populace slavery to pay for the weaponry which enslaves them.

Sound currency or pure barter is the only future for a moral human society.
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Its not only the weaponry that enslaves them? This is to enslave other citizens of other countires. It is through inflation they enslave them. People have to work harder for less.

While the rich live off the injection of money that caused the inflation to begin with.

Basically the rich get richer and the poor and middle class get poorer with this system.

Though the military industrial complex does takes a huge piece of the pie. How many billions do they recieve every year? More than a 100X more than any other country on earth. Talk about over kill. And its not like they will be able to use most of it. Nuclear warfare to that degree is just not feasable.
 
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