DeSantis showboating could cost Florida billions

Concart said:
No doubt. A comprehensive immigration plan (like the ones passed by the Dems and buried by Mitch McConnell) to address all of these issues. Until that time, this is a cure that will make the entire state sicker.
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Yep.

It will be interesting to see how the (R)s spin it to make it all the (D)s' fault. "Leaky borders," "open borders," "illegals running amuck because Biden."
 
PostmodernProphet said:
45,000.....the other 6,955,000 didn't count......cope....
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Lets hope the republiclowns keep listening to derps like you as the ship continues to sink and they keep adding to their pattern of losing. You keep telling them that no increasing number of Dem votes matters, because in your fantasy world they would only gain them in NYS and Cali no matter how big the number gets. Reality will continue to show you otherwise but happy to see Derps deny to the end and be blind to it until too late.


You idiocy on so many fronts has trapped you into a pattern of losing. Every Republican running for the candidacy admits the GOP is currently a party of losing and they need to change it.

You are a party of 'losing' as your party is letting the 'losers', like you and Trump deny reality and pretend you are actually winning and all you have to do is stop the theft, and not change your hate filled politics.

Good luck with that.

I do support you continue to push it though.
 
QP! said:
I'll take that as you surrendering with a trolling reply.
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You're free to take it anyway you want, son, but the fact remains popular votes don't count in Presidential elections no matter how much you dislike it.

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QP! said:
I don't know what you mean by that.

You posited Hillary could win by 20MM but if the margin stayed the same...


That is the dumb 'if', not mine.

If the popular vote gap keeps growing (Hillary 3MM, and Biden 7MM) and with the demographic shift, young voters and women that is quite predictable, ... then the Electoral College WILL NOT save the republi'cans' in the future.


That is simple logic and true as the republi'cans' are not adding 'new voters' to keep the closing the margin if the Dems keep getting ever more in the popular vote.
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Read recently that suddenly now the GOP is switching tactics and is in favor of making voting easier, including mail-in ballots. Should be fun to watch how they sell that, after convincing their voters that they're fraudulent and make it easier to cheat.
 
DeSatan's problem is that he kissed up to trump to win the FL Gov race so hard, all trump has to do is to play DeSatan's ads praising trump up until the primary. DeSatan's done before he starts.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You're free to take it anyway you want, son, but the fact remains popular votes don't count in Presidential elections no matter how much you dislike it.
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It is not what i dislike or not.

What is FACT is that the popular vote and electoral vote correlate within a range of error.

Lets see if i make this real simple if you can understand it? I am skeptical i can make it SIMPLE enough though, given the audience.

If your opponent gets 252MM popular votes in the US (all eligible 'of age' voters) there is no way to win the Electoral College. The math states that with that many popular votes they have also had to have won enough States and the electoral collage votes TOO.


You probably read that and keep thinking 'but...but.... the popular vote CANNOT dictate anything... what if they still win the EC'.

And that is because you are simple and dumb.

So maybe you reply 'no one is winning 252MM popular votes' showing you can comprehend one part while missing that is ONLY pointing out that at SOME CERTAIN POINT, ENOUGH POPULAR VOTES MEANS THE EC IS OUT OF REACH.


That is my point. I hold little faith that you are capable of understanding it. But those who study elections do. In all the Red States the fastest growing parts of the electorate tend to be Blue voters. That is how the Dems keep increasing their count of Popular votes, and why Red States will struggle to stay red.
 
QP! said:
It is not what i dislike or not.

What is FACT is that the popular vote and electoral vote correlate within a range of error.

Lets see if i make this real simple if you can understand it? I am skeptical i can make it SIMPLE enough though, given the audience.

If your opponent gets 252MM popular votes in the US (all eligible 'of age' voters) there is no way to win the Electoral College. The math states that with that many popular votes they have also had to have won enough States and the electoral collage votes TOO.

You probably read that and keep thinking 'but...but.... the popular vote CANNOT dictate anything... what if they still win the EC'.

And that is because you are simple and dumb.

So maybe you reply 'no one is winning 252MM popular votes' showing you can comprehend one part while missing that is ONLY pointing out that at SOME CERTAIN POINT, ENOUGH POPULAR VOTES MEANS THE EC IS OUT OF REACH.

That is my point. I hold little faith that you are capable of understanding it. But those who study elections do. In all the Red States the fastest growing parts of the electorate tend to be Blue voters. That is how the Dems keep increasing their count of Popular votes, and why Red States will struggle to stay red.
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Are you female?

Regardless, you're trying very hard to prove Hillary won in 2016. Go for it.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Are you female?

Regardless, you're trying very hard to prove Hillary won in 2016. Go for it.
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And again you just prove how stupid and what a clown you are.

Nothing i have said, NOTHING, has said or suggested Hillary won in 2016.

Holding an adult conversation is totally beyond you.
 
QP! said:
And again you just prove how stupid and what a clown you are.

Nothing i have said, NOTHING, has said or suggested Hillary won in 2016.

Holding an adult conversation is totally beyond you.
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Yes ma'am.
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Bullshit. Why bring up the 3M votes if you understand Hillary lost?

Then put me on ignore, ma'am, and have a happy life. :)
 
Doc Dutch said:
So it's all the Right's fault?

How are American voters being dumbed down?
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Boehner/Ryan aren't Lefties. Why did they block a bi partisan immigration Senate bill?

Democrats aren't the ones who shut down the govt. when a Republican POTUS is coupled with a Dem Congress.

Republicans are not allowed to work across the aisle. Since the Teabag party usurped power. Just ask them.
 
Althea said:
Boehner/Ryan aren't Lefties. Why did they block a bi partisan immigration Senate bill?

Democrats aren't the ones who shut down the govt. when a Republican POTUS is coupled with a Dem Congress.

Republicans are not allowed to work across the aisle. Since the Teabag party usurped power. Just ask them.
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Mostly true. So Democrats, to paraphrase #45, "take no responsibility". LOL
 
Doc Dutch said:
If the Florida economy falters in comparison to other states, then DeSantis can blame the "Woke" all he wants, but I think most voters will see through the charade.
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On a national level.

The idiots in his state will still love him. Shooting themselves in the foot, as it were.
 
QP! said:
He is term limited out as Governor after this one anyway, so that is why he does not care about burning that bridge.

A Senate seat might be plausible for him, and with the ability to select a 'friendly district' harming 'parts' of the State might not be a deal ender for him.
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Just as he changed the law enabling him to run for POTUS, he'll change term limits. He gets whatever he wants with this low IQ state legislature.
 
Althea said:
On a national level.

The idiots in his state will still love him. Shooting themselves in the foot, as it were.
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Good chance on the state level too if he fucks up the economy and burns all of his bridges in a quest to be President.
 
Althea said:
Just as he changed the law enabling him to run for POTUS, he'll change term limits. He gets whatever he wants with this low IQ state legislature.
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I don't know Florida law, but that is possible. He'll need the majority support of State reps and/or the voting public.
 
QP! said:
The Republiclowns are on a sinking ship, and they are making their last ditch effort to save it now, through election rigging on the front end (preventing people from voting and gerrymandering) and election theft on the back end (not counting votes, throwing out electors and substituting their own), and the SC could have given them a huge boost, with a win on the Independant Legislature theory case, but did not and instead pretty much ensured Democracy will be even more protected than ever.
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They won't take the WH, but redistricting will allow them to keep the House (possibly), and most state legislatures. Much of the damage is being done on the state level now, with the SC giving them carte blanche.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yep.

It will be interesting to see how the (R)s spin it to make it all the (D)s' fault. "Leaky borders," "open borders," "illegals running amuck because Biden."
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Boehner/Ryan used the moronic excuse that 'Obama can't be trusted'.


What the fuck does that even mean when it comes to passing legislation?
 
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