Johannesburg DISINTEGRATING under black rule.

Yakuda said:
This is what I was referring to as the edge of leftist intellectual ability. It stops being intellectual and turns into trump porn addiction. Trump's the problem and NOT 7 years of leftists doing NOTHING but using the power of govt to try and eliminate a political rival.
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It took the Democrats to raise people's awareness to the dangers of Donald Trump, given the most powerful position in the world.

So you can thank us now! Because we were actually right all along, about the danger.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
It took the Democrats to raise people's awareness to the dangers of Donald Trump given the most powerful position in the world.

So you can thank us now!
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The only thing today the Democrats have going now that they're a party of the Left, is they have the Crapper Touch. That is, everything they touch turns to shit.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The only thing today the Democrats have going now that they're a party of the Left, is they have the Crapper Touch. That is, everything they touch turns to shit.
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somehow Democrats have managed to drive KSA and Israel into the hands of the Chinese and didnt even manage to get the fucking Palestinians in return lol.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
For how many years now has S. Africa had a Black majority run government? (Answer 1994)

That means that in 30 odd years, with Blacks running the country, they--according to you--have been unable to overturn the previous White Nationalist laws, or haven't wanted to, and are corrupt politicians. The later I can believe. The former is largely irrelevant. Black rule in S. Africa has provably shown itself to be as racist, corrupt, and grossly more incompetent than the previous White led government was.
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The sad part is the whites left them with a flourishing economy and they just had to continue running it.

Its like Gaza actually. The settlers didnt leave the Gazans with nothing when they left. There were well developed hydroponic farms etc. Now everyhting there is shit.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The only thing today the Democrats have going now that they're a party of the Left, is they have the Crapper Touch. That is, everything they touch turns to shit.
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Like what? Because we haven't even begun to touch many things YET!

Now, Donald Trump- he is an example of ruining everything he touched.

So, man you have a lot of serious reading and catching up with reality to do!
 
tsuke said:
The sad part is the whites left them with a flourishing economy and they just had to continue running it.

Its like Gaza actually. The settlers didnt leave the Gazans with nothing when they left. There were well developed hydroponic farms etc. Now everyhting there is shit.
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The Gazans went out of their way to destroy everything the Jewish settlements had built, and left the ruins as monuments to their stupidity.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Like what? Because we haven't even begun to touch many things YET!

Now, Donald Trump- he is an example of ruining everything he touched.

So, man you have a lot of serious reading and catching up with reality to do!
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Energy policy
Immigration and border control
Environmentalism
Economic policy
Race relations
Infrastructure
Crime and punishment
Education

Hell, the Democrats can't even get public transit to run on time...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
For how many years now has S. Africa had a Black majority run government? (Answer 1994)

That means that in 30 odd years, with Blacks running the country, they--according to you--have been unable to overturn the previous White Nationalist laws, or haven't wanted to, and are corrupt politicians. The later I can believe. The former is largely irrelevant. Black rule in S. Africa has provably shown itself to be as racist, corrupt, and grossly more incompetent than the previous White led government was.
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The problem is, they do not know how to lead themselves out of poverty. I call it a leadership problem. I don't care if they are black or white, they have just not progressed much since Apartheid!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
The problem is, they do not know how to lead themselves out of poverty. I call it a leadership problem. I don't care if they are black or white, they have just not progressed much since Apartheid!
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But that seems to be a near-universal problem with Blacks in government leadership. It isn't unique to S. Africa. Even in the US, Blacks in government leadership generally move those they govern towards poverty, crime, and social and economic ruin. Again, that can be reasonably proven using a sample of Black mayors of larger cities across the US as but one example.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Energy policy
Immigration and border control
Environmentalism
Economic policy
Race relations
Infrastructure
Crime and punishment
Education

Hell, the Democrats can't even get public transit to run on time...
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Energy policy my ass! Biden has done nothing to make that any worse.

Race relations my ass. FUCK OFF NAZI!

Biden has done more for Infrastructure than any president in 60 or 70 years.

Environment? WTF are you talking about? Let's have an example here!

Crime and punishment? WTF are you talking about?

Education, here again, WTF are you talking about?

What economy policy are you referring to?

Immigration and Border control has not even changed since Biden took office.

You are playing the blame game and nasty politics instead of looking at things realistically!
 
T. A. Gardner said:
But that seems to be a near-universal problem with Blacks in government leadership. It isn't unique to S. Africa. Even in the US, Blacks in government leadership generally move those they govern towards poverty, crime, and social and economic ruin. Again, that can be reasonably proven using a sample of Black mayors of larger cities across the US as but one example.
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You are being racist. I hate Racists!

And I won't play into your Racist narrative.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Europe was much the same way for much of its history, but it rose to prominence out of the wreckage of the Roman Empire, colonial rule if you will. I think the difference is / was that sub-Saharan Africa had a relative abundance of food, was temperate in climate where there were few hardships from that aspect, and the different ethnic groups were sufficiently isolated from one and another to prevent frequent wars over territory, all things Europe faced.

A society that has few hardships facing it, can provide food in sufficient quantity to its people, and has no serious external threats generally, almost always, languishes in development. There simply is no reason for it to seek technological or social advancement. The native american population was much the same way. In N. America these same conditions existed and the various tribes had little reason to develop beyond basic agrarian and hunter-gatherer societies.

In Middle and South America, the societies that did go further did so out of necessity to provide food that couldn't be obtained from nature alone, because of continuous tribal warfare, and conflicts over territory. There is a common, if not exact, pattern here.
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Took Europe centuries going from Rome to nation states, Sub Sahara Africa has only been at less than one century, and I wouldn’t say they resemble any of the transition phases Europe went thru
 
T. A. Gardner said:
For how many years now has S. Africa had a Black majority run government? (Answer 1994)

That means that in 30 odd years, with Blacks running the country, they--according to you--have been unable to overturn the previous White Nationalist laws, or haven't wanted to, and are corrupt politicians. The later I can believe. The former is largely irrelevant. Black rule in S. Africa has provably shown itself to be as racist, corrupt, and grossly more incompetent than the previous White led government was.
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Both that doesn’t blanketly dismiss all black leadership because what they have now is incompetent as the thread implies
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You are being racist. I hate Racists!

And I won't play into your Racist narrative.
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Well, let's see:

Tell me which of these cities run by Black mayors don't have major crime, economic, and social problems:

Los Angeles
New York City
Houston
Chicago
Baltimore
San Francisco
Milwaukee
New Orleans
St. Paul
St. Louis
Washington DC
Atlanta

That's a small sampling. As I stated, it isn't racist if it is an observable, measurable, fact which it is. You just don't like reality and the factual truth so, like any good little Leftist you start calling anyone who points it out names hoping they'll STFU to the obvious and again measurable truth that these cities are fucked up like soup sandwiches and a major reason for it is they are run by Democrats who happen to also be Black.

There are some cities that are run by Democrats that aren't Black, and those cities, like Phoenix, San Jose, or San Diego, are not nearly as messed up.
 
archives said:
Took Europe centuries going from Rome to nation states, Sub Sahara Africa has only been at less than one century, and I wouldn’t say they resemble any of the transition phases Europe went thru
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These ignorant idiots have no clue and never traveled much, much less to Africa . It has only been less than a generation since they have been under colonial rule
 
guno said:
These ignorant idiots have no clue and never traveled much, much less to Africa . It has only been less than a generation since they have been under colonial rule
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I get why that would be an excuse but in the same vein Israel went from incomes like a middle eastern country to incomes like a first world country in 75 years.

I guess the question would be "How long will you willingly let people suffer just to prove that blacks can lead?"
 
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