Nearly 70% of poll respondents less likely to patronize Disney for being woke.....

[Nomad]

Because Yahoo just presented the results of a poll and didn't examine the methodology doesn't mean the question wasn't leading. The question was clearly leading by any objective standard.
Because one question is leading doesn't make a pollster have a low rating. This is some pretty simple stuff that half way intelligent people can look at methodology and figure out for themselves. They don't need Yahoo to tell them.
This particular poll looks like a push poll that was hired done by someone trying to push an agenda.

That is all still beside the point.

The point being that, even if the poll sked a leading question, how much or by what percentage did it skew the results?

Or did it totally invalidate them?

Let's say that the supposed "leading nature" of the question added an extra 10% to the number of people who responded negatively, saying the news reports in question would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future. Subtract that 10% from the 68% result, and you've still got 58% of respondents who say the news reports would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future.

Let's say it skewed the results 20%. That still leaves 48% of respondents who say the news reports would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future.

Even if the poll results only have 50% accuracy, it still spells bad news for Disney.

The bottom line... nit-pick over the wording of the question all you want, but it does not change the FACT that Disney's pro-woke, gay agenda is not popular with a very large chunk of the public. And the fact that this chunk has begun to perceive it as possibly affecting their children, puts Disney in a precarious position which could severely damage their wholesome, family friendly reputation and as such, their bottom line profits for years to come.

I doubt the Disney corporate heads are looking at the results of that poll and just brushing it off, chuckling to each other about the leading nature of the question. I'm pretty confident that they are taking it seriously.

The take away for them should be IMO, to distance themselves as far as possible from all this gay agenda shit.

Obviously not to the point of no longer welcoming gays into their theme parks, or even ending the annual Gay Days celebration, etc. But if they're smart, that's as gay friendly as they'll be moving forward.

Treat them fairly like everyone else, but keep the gay and woke agenda crap out of their films and merchandising.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

That is all still beside the point.

The point being that, even if the poll sked a leading question, how much or by what percentage did it skew the results?

Or did it totally invalidate them?

Let's say that the supposed "leading nature" of the question added an extra 10% to the number of people who responded negatively, saying the news reports in question would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future. Subtract that 10% from the 68% result, and you've still got 58% of respondents who say the news reports would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future.

Let's say it skewed the results 20%. That still leaves 48% of respondents who say the news reports would make it less likely that they'd do business with Disney in the future.

Even if the poll results only have 50% accuracy, it still spells bad news for Disney.

The bottom line... nit-pick over the wording of the question all you want, but it does not change the FACT that Disney's pro-woke, gay agenda is not popular with a very large chunk of the public. And the fact that this chunk has begun to perceive it as possibly affecting their children, puts Disney in a precarious position which could severely damage their wholesome, family friendly reputation and as such, their bottom line profits for years to come.

I doubt the Disney corporate heads are looking at the results of that poll and just brushing it off, chuckling to each other about the leading nature of the question. I'm pretty confident that they are taking it seriously.

The take away for them should be IMO, to distance themselves as far as possible from all this gay agenda shit.

Obviously not to the point of no longer welcoming gays into their theme parks, or even ending the annual Gay Days celebration, etc. But if they're smart, that's as gay friendly as they'll be moving forward.

Treat them fairly like everyone else, but keep the gay and woke agenda crap out of their films and merchandising.

LOL. We have no real way of knowing how it skewed the results since there isn't a poll without the skewed question. You can play around with the numbers all you want and they are meaningless without a proper question and without other data.
How many people that answered the poll have actually used a Disney product in the last year? 5%? 30%? Did the respondents that say they would be less likely even consume a Disney product?

20 million people per year go to DisneyWorld
Disney + has 45 million households that subscribe in the US and Canada.
That means only about 25% of the US likely consumed a Disney product that they were aware of. 75% of respondents probably didn't use a Disney product and 68% said they would be less likely to use a Disney product. How much business do you lose if someone that has never done business with you says they are less likely to do business with you?

 

[Nomad]

LOL. We have no real way of knowing how it skewed the results since there isn't a poll without the skewed question. You can play around with the numbers all you want and they are meaningless without a proper question and without other data.
How many people that answered the poll have actually used a Disney product in the last year? 5%? 30%? Did the respondents that say they would be less likely even consume a Disney product?

Irrelevant.

Disney, like every other company who sells a product or service, has to consider that every adult American citizen is a potential customer, regardless of whether or not they have been in the past.

Obviously, luring in new customers is much more important for the growth of any company than resting on current or past customers.

20 million people per year go to DisneyWorld
Disney + has 45 million households that subscribe in the US and Canada.
That means only about 25% of the US likely consumed a Disney product that they were aware of. 75% of respondents probably didn't use a Disney product and 68% said they would be less likely to use a Disney product. How much business do you lose if someone that has never done business with you says they are less likely to do business with you?

Where does that data come from?

BTW, I posted a link to the complete results with all relevant demographic info.

It still remains a matter of common sense, that for Disney to not have reason to be concerned about these results, the poll would have to have such a huge margin of error, that it would totally invalidate the poll.

A situation which I seriously doubt the wording of the question would create to the degree you suggest.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Irrelevant.

Disney, like every other company who sells a product or service, has to consider that every adult American citizen is a potential customer, regardless of whether or not they have been in the past.

Obviously, luring in new customers is much more important for the growth of any company than resting on current or past customers.



Where does that data come from?

The data comes from yearly visitors to Disneyworld (https://disneynews.us/disney-parks-attendance/) 17.133 million in 2022, down from over 20 million in 2019. This is visitors total not unique visitors.
and number of Disney + subscriber households in US and Canada. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app/uploads/2023/02/2022-Annual-Report.pdf

BTW, I posted a link to the complete results with all relevant demographic info.


It still remains a matter of common sense, that for Disney to not have reason to be concerned about these results, the poll would have to have such a huge margin of error, that it would totally invalidate the poll.

A situation which I seriously doubt the wording of the question would create to the degree you suggest.

You don't seem to understand that the poll only pushed that response onto 1079 people. The 300million + people that didn't respond to the poll did not have that opinion pushed onto them. Disney has nothing to worry about because of that push poll.

 

[Nomad]

The data comes from yearly visitors to Disneyworld (https://disneynews.us/disney-parks-attendance/) 17.133 million in 2022, down from over 20 million in 2019. This is visitors total not unique visitors.
and number of Disney + subscriber households in US and Canada. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app/uploads/2023/02/2022-Annual-Report.pdf

You don't seem to understand that the poll only pushed that response onto 1079 people. The 300million + people that didn't respond to the poll did not have that opinion pushed onto them. Disney has nothing to worry about because of that push poll.

You don't seem to understand that 1079 people is an average or even slightly above average sampling size for any poll.

Your claim that the opinion was "pushed onto them" assumes that people are so stupid, all someone has to do is suggest something and they automatically fall into some hypnotized mind control zone in which they cannot reason for themselves.

No problem.

I know how hyper partisans who are dedicated to causes like woke ideology think and operate.

It's not unexpected.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You don't seem to understand that 1079 people is an average or even slightly above average sampling size for any poll.

Your claim that the opinion was "pushed onto them" assumes that people are so stupid, all someone has to do is suggest something and they automatically fall into some hypnotized mind control zone in which they cannot reason for themselves.

No problem.

I know how hyper partisans who are dedicated to causes like woke ideology think and operate.

It's not unexpected.

I understand exactly how samples work. But when the question is a leading question, no one outside those who are asked the question are aware of the leading information in the question. Giving people information and then asking them to respond to the information you just gave them can not tell you what people that haven't been given that information think.

Look up "push poll." It is a common enough tactic and is used by partisans to try to push an opinion.

 

[Nomad]

I understand exactly how samples work. But when the question is a leading question, no one outside those who are asked the question are aware of the leading information in the question. Giving people information and then asking them to respond to the information you just gave them can not tell you what people that haven't been given that information think.

Look up "push poll." It is a common enough tactic and is used by partisans to try to push an opinion.

I think YOU need to familiarize yourself with the characteristics of a push poll....

The common elements are....

According to AAPOR, the following characteristics can help respondents identify push polls:

• One or only a few questions are asked, all about a single candidate or a single issue.
• The questions are uniformly strongly negative (or sometimes uniformly positive) descriptions of the candidate or issue.
• The organization conducting the calls is not named, or a phony name is used.
• Evasive answers are given in response to requests for more information about the survey.
• The number of people called is very large, sometimes many thousands.
• The calls are not based on a random sample.
• It is difficult to find out which organization conducted the interviews

Another characteristic of push polls is that the negative information is FALSE.

Example:

In the special election for the open U.S. House seat with the 1st Congressional District of South Carolina, Elizabeth Colbert-Busch (D) ran against former Gov. Mark Sanford (R). Prior to the election, South Carolina voters received calls from an unknown polling group asking the following questions, among others:

What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you she had had an abortion?
What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you a judge held her in contempt of court at her divorce proceedings?
What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if she had done jail time?

Reporting on this push polling, Philip Bump of The Atlantic wrote: "It's worth clarifying at this point: There have been no reports that any of these things actually happened to Colbert Busch. That's the nature of what's called push polling. Push polls aren't actually polls at all; rather, they're attempts to negatively influence voters and/or introduce scurrilous rumors into the political conversation."

The Disney poll information was true. There had been news reports that Disney was exposing children to sexual ideas.

Not all surveys containing negative information are push polls. Political parties may conduct surveys containing negative information to test whether certain campaign messages or advertisements will be effective.

https://ballotpedia.org/Push_polling

Based on the above criteria, the Disney poll does not meet the standard for a push poll.

 

[BartenderElite]

People go so overboard on "woke."

For some, just acknowledging the existence of homosexuals is some sort of "woke" thing. It's embarrassing.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I think YOU need to familiarize yourself with the characteristics of a push poll....

The common elements are....

According to AAPOR, the following characteristics can help respondents identify push polls:

• One or only a few questions are asked, all about a single candidate or a single issue. Check - The poll only asked 2 questions.
• The questions are uniformly strongly negative (or sometimes uniformly positive) descriptions of the candidate or issue. Check - The question was clearly phrased to promote a negative opinion about Disney
• The organization conducting the calls is not named, or a phony name is used. Unknown if the pollster identified themselves."
• Evasive answers are given in response to requests for more information about the survey. Unknown
• The number of people called is very large, sometimes many thousands.
• The calls are not based on a random sample.
• It is difficult to find out which organization conducted the interviews

I never said this was a push poll that met all the requirements. I said the question was like those used in a push poll. The questions don't have to contain false information to be biased. They just have to contain information intended to create bias.

Would you think this question is biased?
Disney has given children joy for well over 60 years. They let children interact with Disney characters in a positive fashion. Does this make you more or less likely to support Disney?

Any question that has a predicate designed to create a positive or negative impression is not a proper question under normal polling procedures.

Here is a decent article on leading questions and shows how subtle leading questions can be.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/how-to-avoid-asking-leading-and-loaded-questions/

It is because this biased poll didn't include millions of people that Disney doesn't need to concern themselves with it.

 

[Nomad]

'News reports reveal that Nomad likes to fuck goats and donkeys. Does that make you more or less likely to trust him with your pets?'

News reports reveal that Concart used to work as a fluffer in the gay porn industry. Given how many cocks that had recently been up other men's rectums, which he then had in his mouth, would you drink out of a glass you knew he'd had his filthy, diseased lips on?

 

[Nomad]

I never said this was a push poll that met all the requirements. I said the question was like those used in a push poll. The questions don't have to contain false information to be biased. They just have to contain information intended to create bias.

Well then that in itself calls in to question whether or not it is actually a push poll, or if that is just your opinion, formed for the purpose of defending your position.

IWould you think this question is biased?
Disney has given children joy for well over 60 years. They let children interact with Disney characters in a positive fashion. Does this make you more or less likely to support Disney?

Of course it's biased.

But the nature of your question is different than Trafalgar's question.

Your question assumed a factually positive assessment of Disney. Trafalgar's question asked whether seeing news reports about something would effect respondents' views.

IAny question that has a predicate designed to create a positive or negative impression is not a proper question under normal polling procedures.

You also said "Good pollsters can and do ask leading questions at times" (post #24, pg 2 of thread)

IIt is because this biased poll didn't include millions of people that Disney doesn't need to concern themselves with it.

There is no such thing as a poll that questions millions of people.

A standard sampling size of all polls is around 1,000.

It would be physically and logistically impossible to poll millions of people.

That's why polls are known to be random samplings in which the results can be statistically assumed to represent the larger population.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Well then that in itself calls in to question whether or not it is actually a push poll, or if that is just your opinion, formed for the purpose of defending your position.



Of course it's biased.

But the nature of your question is different than Trafalgar's question.

Your question assumed a factually positive assessment of Disney. Trafalgar's question asked whether seeing news reports about something would effect respondents' views.



You also said "Good pollsters can and do ask leading questions at times" (post #24, pg 2 of thread)



There is no such thing as a poll that questions millions of people.

A standard sampling size of all polls is around 1,000.

It would be physically and logistically impossible to poll millions of people.

That's why polls are known to be random samplings in which the results can be statistically assumed to represent the larger population.

Asking if they have seen negative or positive news reports is precisely the kind of question that is a leading question. This isn't that hard to understand.

News reports have said that Disney has given sick children joy by sending their characters to children's hospitals. The news reports also say they let children interact with Disney characters in a positive fashion. Does this make you more or less likely to support Disney?
https://impact.disney.com/impact-st...childrens-hospitals-across-the-globe-in-2023/

If the question shows any bias whether true or not it is a leading question. When it is one of only 2 questions in the poll then it borders on being a push poll.

 

[Nomad]

Asking if they have seen negative or positive news reports is precisely the kind of question that is a leading question. This isn't that hard to understand.

News reports have said that Disney has given sick children joy by sending their characters to children's hospitals. The news reports also say they let children interact with Disney characters in a positive fashion. Does this make you more or less likely to support Disney?
https://impact.disney.com/impact-st...childrens-hospitals-across-the-globe-in-2023/

If the question shows any bias whether true or not it is a leading question. When it is one of only 2 questions in the poll then it borders on being a push poll.

There is still no indication that it would influence their answers.

All the poll does is ask responders how knowledge of these news reports might affect their willingness to be Disney's customers in the future. The question makes no suggestion about whether the reports are true or not.

For instance:

Let's say there were news reports that said African American neighborhoods were statistically the most dangerous areas in the nation and carried the statistically highest risk of being assaulted, robbed and killed.

If I mentioned those news reports to you, then asked if that made you more or less likely to visit an African American neighborhood, would my mention of the news reports influence your answer?

Why?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

There is still no indication that it would influence their answers.

All the poll does is ask responders how knowledge of these news reports might affect their willingness to be Disney's customers in the future. The question makes no suggestion about whether the reports are true or not.

For instance:

Let's say there were news reports that said African American neighborhoods were statistically the most dangerous areas in the nation and carried the statistically highest risk of being assaulted, robbed and killed.

If I mentioned those news reports to you, then asked if that made you more or less likely to visit an African American neighborhood, would my mention of the news reports influence your answer?

Why?

Another nice example of a leading question. It reveals nothing about the feelings of the people at large when it comes to African American neighborhoods since it doesn't ask who has seen those news reports before asking the question. If the news reports are in a far right newspaper 1,000 miles away, would that stop anyone from visiting the neighborhood?



An intelligent person would be able to recognize that any question that asks about news reports that have a positive or negative aspect is a leading question. Are you an intelligent person?

 

[Nomad]

Another nice example of a leading question. It reveals nothing about the feelings of the people at large when it comes to African American neighborhoods since it doesn't ask who has seen those news reports before asking the question. If the news reports are in a far right newspaper 1,000 miles away, would that stop anyone from visiting the neighborhood?

Nope.

The question as posed, is predicated on the basis of...

"Assuming the reports are true...... would it cause you to...?"

The focus of the question is really more about the effect of the news reports than it is about how respondents feel about or their degree of loyalty to Disney.

Because we know not everyone believes news reports.

An intelligent person would be able to recognize that any question that asks about news reports that have a positive or negative aspect is a leading question. Are you an intelligent person?

So if someone posed the question:

"News reports reveal that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him when he left the White House and stored them in unsecured locations at his home in Florida. Does this make you more or less likely to support him in any future election?"

...any answers they received would be totally invalid because, according to you, the question was leading and had a negative influence on their response?

GTFOH.

You're splitting hairs.

People either believe the reports or they don't.

The question seeks to gauge the effect of the reports themselves, not the level of support for Trump.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Nope.

The question as posed, is predicated on the basis of...

"Assuming the reports are true...... would it cause you to...?"

The focus of the question is really more about the effect of the news reports than it is about how respondents feel about or their degree of loyalty to Disney.

Because we know not everyone believes news reports.



So if someone posed the question:

"News reports reveal that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him when he left the White House and stored them in unsecured locations at his home in Florida. Does this make you more or less likely to support him in any future election?"

...any answers they received would be totally invalid because, according to you, the question was leading and had a negative influence on their response?

GTFOH.

You're splitting hairs.

People either believe the reports or they don't.

The question seeks to gauge the effect of the reports themselves, not the level of support for Trump.

I am hardly splitting hairs. I am simply asking a leading poll question.

An intelligent person would be able to recognize that any question that asks about news reports that have a positive or negative aspect is a leading question. Are you an intelligent person?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So if someone posed the question:

"News reports reveal that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him when he left the White House and stored them in unsecured locations at his home in Florida. Does this make you more or less likely to support him in any future election?"

...any answers they received would be totally invalid because, according to you, the question was leading and had a negative influence on their response?

GTFOH.

You're splitting hairs.

People either believe the reports or they don't.

The question seeks to gauge the effect of the reports themselves, not the level of support for Trump.

It doesn't find out what effect the reports have since it has no basis to compare to. The question is simply an attempt to force a certain answer. When it is the only question asked or one of only two questions it clearly has no valid way to represent how people feel in general or how people feel 10 minutes after the pollster hangs up and they realize they were duped. The question is nothing more than a way to try to trick people into answering a certain way so the results can be used for partisan purposes.

 

[Nomad]

I am hardly splitting hairs. I am simply asking a leading poll question.

An intelligent person would be able to recognize that any question that asks about news reports that have a positive or negative aspect is a leading question. Are you an intelligent person?

I say BS.

The question gauged a general attitude amongst the registered voter population towards the idea of exposing children to sexual ideas and their willingness to associate with a company reported to be doing so.

If Disney is really doing that, they should be concerned. If they aren't, they have nothing to be worried about.

You're just trying to provide cover for Disney and your fellow gay agenda pushers.

Plain and simple.

It doesn't find out what effect the reports have since it has no basis to compare to. The question is simply an attempt to force a certain answer. When it is the only question asked or one of only two questions it clearly has no valid way to represent how people feel in general or how people feel 10 minutes after the pollster hangs up and they realize they were duped. The question is nothing more than a way to try to trick people into answering a certain way so the results can be used for partisan purposes.

"News reports reveal that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him when he left the White House and stored them in unsecured locations at his home in Florida. Does this make you more or less likely to support him in any future election?"

I'm obviously trying to "force" and "trick" you to answer no, even though, like gay agenda supporters, his base doesn't give a shit what he does and will follow him down into the sewer anyway.

Goodness gracious, how clever and devious I am.

 

[Lionfish]

Disastrous Diversity Officer Out at Disney

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[Concart]

I say BS.

The question gauged a general attitude amongst the registered voter population towards the idea of exposing children to sexual ideas and their willingness to associate with a company reported to be doing so.

If Disney is really doing that, they should be concerned. If they aren't, they have nothing to be worried about.

You're just trying to provide cover for Disney and your fellow gay agenda pushers.

Plain and simple.



"News reports reveal that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him when he left the White House and stored them in unsecured locations at his home in Florida. Does this make you more or less likely to support him in any future election?"

I'm obviously trying to "force" and "trick" you to answer no, even though, like gay agenda supporters, his base doesn't give a shit what he does and will follow him down into the sewer anyway.

Goodness gracious, how clever and devious I am.

Your analogy is an epic fail, because it is not news reports that indicate that Donald Trump took highly classified documents with him to an unsecured location. It is an established fact. Disney attempting to sexualize children is a motherfucking stupid innuendo.

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