‘You Can’t Protect Some Life and Not Others’

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An opinion column by a female Anglican priest, Tish Harrison Warren.

"The whole life movement, for instance, rejects the notion that a party can embrace family values while leaving asylum-seeking children on our Southern border in grave danger. Or that one can extend compassion to those children, while withholding it from the unwanted child in the womb. A whole life ethic is often antiwar, anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-euthanasia and pro-gun control. It sees a thread connecting issues that the major party platforms often silo.

Yet no major political party embodies this consistent ethic of life. I find it strange that a view that is respected by so many religious bodies and individuals is virtually absent from our political discourse and voting options."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/opinion/whole-life-movement-polarization.html

The argument is very confusing. She seems to have most of her issues represented by the Democratic Party. Yet thinks unless Democrats are anti-abortion, neither party is a legitimate moral agent.
 
BidenPresident said:
An opinion column by a female Anglican priest, Tish Harrison Warren.

"The whole life movement, for instance, rejects the notion that a party can embrace family values while leaving asylum-seeking children on our Southern border in grave danger. Or that one can extend compassion to those children, while withholding it from the unwanted child in the womb. A whole life ethic is often antiwar, anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-euthanasia and pro-gun control. It sees a thread connecting issues that the major party platforms often silo.

Yet no major political party embodies this consistent ethic of life. I find it strange that a view that is respected by so many religious bodies and individuals is virtually absent from our political discourse and voting options."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/opinion/whole-life-movement-polarization.html

The argument is very confusing. She seems to have most of her issues represented by the Democratic Party. Yet thinks unless Democrats are anti-abortion, neither party is a legitimate moral agent.
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I think it makes most of us cherry pickers, doesn’t it?
 
BidenPresident said:
Yes. But her argument is that neither party deserves her support. A rather extreme idea.
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If that’s her take, I don’t know that I can disagree with her. Jesus, look at the two choices we face at the moment. Biden and Trump.

Is that the best this country can offer? If it is, I share in her disillusionment.
 
domer76 said:
If that’s her take, I don’t know that I can disagree with her. Jesus, look at the two choices we face at the moment. Biden and Trump.

Is that the best this country can offer? If it is, I share in her disillusionment.
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I am a huge supporter of Biden. I am surprised at the animosity toward him.
 
"The political scientist Morris Fiorina writes in “Unstable Majorities” that the common perception that the American people are more polarized than ever is an illusion. What is true, however, is that the Republican and Democratic Party platforms have become more polarized and, in Fiorina’s words, more “sorted” than they have been historically. The most devoted members of the base of each party maintain that polarization, but they don’t reflect the majority of voters, or even a majority of those who identify with the dominant parties." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/opinion/whole-life-movement-polarization.html

Again, her argument seems to be that Democrats need to be anti-abortion. Until then, both parties are bad.
 
"The most polarizing issues of our day are divisive precisely because they are moral in nature. They derive not from different ideas about the size of government or wonkish policy debates but are rooted in incommensurable moral arguments. To move forward, we have to rebundle disparate political issues, re-sort political alliances and shake up the categories, so that those who now disagree on some things may find common cause on others, and so that people committed to a consistent ethic of life might actually feel as if they have at least a modicum of — a possibility of — representation."
 
BidenPresident said:
An opinion column by a female Anglican priest, Tish Harrison Warren.

"The whole life movement, for instance, rejects the notion that a party can embrace family values while leaving asylum-seeking children on our Southern border in grave danger. Or that one can extend compassion to those children, while withholding it from the unwanted child in the womb. A whole life ethic is often antiwar, anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-euthanasia and pro-gun control. It sees a thread connecting issues that the major party platforms often silo.

Yet no major political party embodies this consistent ethic of life. I find it strange that a view that is respected by so many religious bodies and individuals is virtually absent from our political discourse and voting options."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/opinion/whole-life-movement-polarization.html

The argument is very confusing. She seems to have most of her issues represented by the Democratic Party. Yet thinks unless Democrats are anti-abortion, neither party is a legitimate moral agent.
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80 plus percent of the people that CLAIM asylum do not have a legitimate claim most are economic refugees. Most will simply disappear into the US and never show up for their asylum hearing. You can't call for legal asylum and not care for the unborn.
 
domer76 said:
I voted for him and still support what he is trying to do. But Joe has lost a step or two and I don’t want him to run for another term.
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Joe is corrupt. His family was raking in millions with no product or service to sell except for access to the Big Guy. In fact the RELIABLE source guy that wrote the 1023 said the oligarch referred to Joe Biden as the "Big Guy". That was before the Hunter laptop referred to the Big Guy that Hunter held 10% for. Hunter had 20 LLC to pass money through. All the ear marks of illegal money laundering.
 
ExpressLane said:
Joe is corrupt. His family was raking in millions with no product or service to sell except for access to the Big Guy. In fact the RELIABLE source guy that wrote the 1023 said the oligarch referred to Joe Biden as the "Big Guy". That was before the Hunter laptop referred to the Big Guy that Hunter held 10% for.
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Joe is corrupt. Donald is corrupt. Therefore, what?
 
ExpressLane said:
Joe is corrupt. His family was raking in millions with no product or service to sell except for access to the Big Guy. In fact the RELIABLE source guy that wrote the 1023 said the oligarch referred to Joe Biden as the "Big Guy". That was before the Hunter laptop referred to the Big Guy that Hunter held 10% for.
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Great. His “family”. That’s all I keep hearing. His family, his family, his family.

But I never saw you complain about Trump’s kids cashing in on his name, so your whining has no weight.

Until anyone comes up with any proof about Joe himself, I’ll wait. So should you.
 
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