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The real injustice would have been not to indict him

So serious are these allegations that not to have charged Mr Trump would have been to single him out for special treatment. Had Mr Trump acknowledged his mistake and returned all the files, it is hard to see how there would have been any prosecution. As it is, Bill Barr, Mr Trump’s former attorney-general, told Fox News that the indictment is “very, very damning” and concluded that “if even half of it is true, then he’s toast.”

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2...eting-cloud&utm_term=6/13/2023&utm_id=1634166
 
Donald Trump stony faced during federal indictment hearing

Stony faced in a blue suit and red tie, Donald Trump sat flanked by defence lawyers in a courtroom to face criminal charges, for the second time since leaving office.

The former president listened with a slight frown while prosecutors accused him of improperly possessing and concealing classified documents. It is the first time a former president has faced federal criminal charges.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65898304
 
BidenPresident said:
The real injustice would have been not to indict him

So serious are these allegations that not to have charged Mr Trump would have been to single him out for special treatment. Had Mr Trump acknowledged his mistake and returned all the files, it is hard to see how there would have been any prosecution. As it is, Bill Barr, Mr Trump’s former attorney-general, told Fox News that the indictment is “very, very damning” and concluded that “if even half of it is true, then he’s toast.”

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2...eting-cloud&utm_term=6/13/2023&utm_id=1634166
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The exact same thing could be said of Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and a plethora of other top politicians, yet they aren't facing indictment.

They are no different than this guy who just got convicted.

TAMPA, Fla. -- A former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer was sentenced Thursday to three years in federal prison for keeping classified documents at his home and other unauthorized locations.

Robert Birchum, 55, was sentenced in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in February to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to the national defense of the United States. Birchum was also fined $25,000.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/retired-air-force-officer-gets-3-years-prison-99775033

If he's guilty, then they're guilty. Trump isn't the only one that should be on trial for this sort of charge.
 
BidenPresident said:
Therefore, what?
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She should be indicted for illegally using a personal server, circumventing a whole raft of federal laws on records keeping, having classified information that wasn't properly secured, etc. She did all of that and more, and did it knowingly with the intent to sidestep federal law.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
She should be indicted for illegally using a personal server, circumventing a whole raft of federal laws on records keeping, having classified information that wasn't properly secured, etc. She did all of that and more, and did it knowingly with the intent to sidestep federal law.
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Okay.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The exact same thing could be said of Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and a plethora of other top politicians, yet they aren't facing indictment.

They are no different than this guy who just got convicted.

TAMPA, Fla. -- A former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer was sentenced Thursday to three years in federal prison for keeping classified documents at his home and other unauthorized locations.

Robert Birchum, 55, was sentenced in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in February to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to the national defense of the United States. Birchum was also fined $25,000.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/retired-air-force-officer-gets-3-years-prison-99775033

If he's guilty, then they're guilty. Trump isn't the only one that should be on trial for this sort of charge.
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To say there is no difference just shows what a partisan hack you are.
 
B-B-B-B-B-But HILLARY!

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Fucking idiot!

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BidenPresident said:
And Gardner says we leftists don't have a sense of humor.
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Gardner is one of the most miserable butt hurt extreme RIGHT WING losers of all time. He is so miserable it's pathetic.

His state has gone from red to blue, and he don't know what to do, but come here and cry to us every day now.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The exact same thing could be said of Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and a plethora of other top politicians, yet they aren't facing indictment.

They are no different than this guy who just got convicted.

TAMPA, Fla. -- A former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer was sentenced Thursday to three years in federal prison for keeping classified documents at his home and other unauthorized locations.

Robert Birchum, 55, was sentenced in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in February to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to the national defense of the United States. Birchum was also fined $25,000.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/retired-air-force-officer-gets-3-years-prison-99775033

If he's guilty, then they're guilty. Trump isn't the only one that should be on trial for this sort of charge.
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They are absolutely not the same crimes. Read the 38 charges for Trump. Pence and Biden totally cooperated with the FBI. Trump lied to them and obstructed them from getting the documents back. Why do you type stupid crap like that? You cannot be dumb enough to believe it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The exact same thing could be said of Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, and a plethora of other top politicians, yet they aren't facing indictment.

They are no different than this guy who just got convicted.

TAMPA, Fla. -- A former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer was sentenced Thursday to three years in federal prison for keeping classified documents at his home and other unauthorized locations.

Robert Birchum, 55, was sentenced in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in February to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to the national defense of the United States. Birchum was also fined $25,000.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/retired-air-force-officer-gets-3-years-prison-99775033

If he's guilty, then they're guilty. Trump isn't the only one that should be on trial for this sort of charge.
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Except you are lying.

None of them refused to give back Gov't doc's for over a year and swore out statements they had nothing left.

That is the singular difference that is the crux of the crime. And the crime matters. It is not what is similar, it is what is different and that is the crime.
 
BidenPresident said:
The real injustice would have been not to indict him

So serious are these allegations that not to have charged Mr Trump would have been to single him out for special treatment. Had Mr Trump acknowledged his mistake and returned all the files, it is hard to see how there would have been any prosecution. As it is, Bill Barr, Mr Trump’s former attorney-general, told Fox News that the indictment is “very, very damning” and concluded that “if even half of it is true, then he’s toast.”

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2...eting-cloud&utm_term=6/13/2023&utm_id=1634166
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Then it must be time for Biden to be indicted
 
QP! said:
Except you are lying.

None of them refused to give back Gov't doc's for over a year and swore out statements they had nothing left.

That is the singular difference that is the crux of the crime. And the crime matters. It is not what is similar, it is what is different and that is the crime.
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That makes ZERO difference. Possession is sufficient for charging someone.
 
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