Does trump have a viable defense?

[Truth Detector]

agreed, but that is defense for stashing documents in his bathroom

what a fucking idiot

Was the bathroom an unsecure location like say, a garage, or China Town? You do know that Trump has secret service protection of his property. Do you think anyone could just walk in and take documents? And where was the bathroom? There are 33 at Mara Lago.

Again, a president or former president cannot be charged under the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act was enacted precisely to tamp down the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act is a CIVIL statute. So, once again, like the Russian collusion hoax and the phony impeachments, this is bogus and will be dismissed as such.

 

[Melchizedek = Michael]

I read the indictment, and I do not see a viable defense for Trump? Does anybody have any kind of defense to the allegations against Trump? I’m not talking about whining about pretend arguments that other people did the same thing, I’m talking about an honest defense

There isn’t one.

No! He doesn't!

 

[Yakuda]

It’s his attitude towards the rule of law.

Well half an admission is better than none. If you actually cared about the rule of law you would demand Biden get indicted because you would demand it if trump did it. We know you hate trump which includes his attitude but the rule of law is fluid like your gender.

 

[Melchizedek = Michael]

The defense for Hillary was…intent...no intent to violate the Espionage Act…a lie by Hillary.

Deflecting away from Trump doesn't change the simple fact a grand jury of CITIZENS has charged him with over 30 federal crimes!

 

[Truth Detector]

There are too many ways for Trump to wiggle off this hook,

Indeed; it is called innocent of the charges and a lack of coherent evidence to support the inane charge of espionage.

despite he clear guilt.

It is only "clear" to halfwits, fools and MSNBC viewers. To everyone else with half a brain, it is inane, asinine, absurd and Fascistic.

 

[Earl]

Well half an admission is better than none. If you actually cared about the rule of law you would demand Biden get indicted because you would demand it if trump did it. We know you hate trump which includes his attitude but the rule of law is fluid like your gender.

“Gender fluid Jarod”…too funny.

 

[Truth Detector]

I don't believe the word espionage is in the indictment at all so I don't know where you get the idea that the main charge in the indictment is espionage.
https://www.scribd.com/document/651864905/US-v-Trump-Nauta-23-80101

Well, that is because you're an uninformed low IQ dumbass who parrots DNC narratives and talking points. The first charge on the indictment: 18 U.S.C. 793e

Which reads: (e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;  or

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf

There are 31 counts of retaining documents and failing to deliver them to an officer of the United States.

Most of which charge Trump with improper handling and witness tampering. Witness to what? There is no crime.

A president or former president cannot be charged under the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act was enacted precisely to tamp down the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act is a CIVIL statute. So, once again, like the Russian collusion hoax and the phony impeachments, this is bogus and will be dismissed as such.

 

[Earl]

Deflecting away from Trump doesn't change the simple fact a grand jury of CITIZENS has charged him with over 30 federal crimes!

Has he been convicted of any?

It only takes one juror…or a friendly judge to prevent a conviction.

 

[Truth Detector]

Yes correct.

Ignore the Trumptards saying the consistency of the DOJ has to be to charge every top gov't official who simply has government doc's wrongly even if they give them back and the gov't cannot prove intent.

Ironic you are claiming anyone else is a tard. It's called equal justice under the law halfwit. You can't charge one person for the same crime you refused to charge others for. It's a precedent already set by Democrats, you willful caricature of ignorance and stupidity.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

FLOL at this clown^^^


Who has the history of losing???

.

the left....they can't even be honest with their statistics.......I expect it has something to do with their lack of a solid foundation.......

 

[Yakuda]

“Gender fluid Jarod”…too funny.

Jarod the gender fluid jurist

 

[Truth Detector]

I call bullshit. Had trump done what Biden did you would be just as nutty as you are now and calling for a conviction. It's not about the documents it's about trump. It's your disingenuous buffoonery that decent people can't tolerate.

What Biden did was far worse than what Trump was doing. Let's be clear about that. There is no equivalency here. Biden had no right to any documents as a Senator or VP. A President does under the PRA.

 

[Yakuda]

Deflecting away from Trump doesn't change the simple fact a grand jury of CITIZENS has charged him with over 30 federal crimes!

Who only hear what the prosecutor wants them to hear.

 

[zymurgy]

Was the bathroom an unsecure location like say, a garage, or China Town? You do know that Trump has secret service protection of his property.

It was in a very unsecure location. His security detail is tasked with protecting him, not documents.

 

[Earl]

the left....they can't even be honest with their statistics.......I expect it has something to do with their lack of a solid foundation.......

They watched too many trans freak shows.

It "has rotted their brains.

 

[Yakuda]

What Biden did was far worse than what Trump was doing. Let's be clear about that. There is no equivalency here. Biden had no right to any documents as a Senator or VP. A President does under the PRA.

Well remember dumbocrats prefer "truth" to facts, their leader said so himself.

 

[Earl]

Still not the required intent.

The majority of the charges involve violations of the Espionage Act.

Are you drunk again?

 

[Truth Detector]

The Presidential Records Act helps to clarify what is a government document and what is a personal document.

Wrong again halfwit. It clearly delegates that responsibility to the President. You might want to read it before you bloviate ignorantly and stupidly about it.

Trump is charged with retaining government documents related to national defense and not returning them.

That is a bullshit claim. He is charged with espionage, obstruction and witness tampering yet there was no crime.

A president or former president cannot be charged under the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act was enacted precisely to tamp down the Espionage Act. The Presidential Records Act is a CIVIL statute. So, once again, like the Russian collusion hoax and the phony impeachments, this is bogus and will be dismissed as such.

A document created by the defense department and shown to the President is not a personal document. He didn't create the document, the government did.

If you read the evidence list, most of the "classified" documents came from briefings to the President. It certainly fits that he would keep them and review them to determine that at a later date.

The PRA is clear on that. There also is no timeline on when he had to return the documents as long as they are secure. Where does the PRA say that the archivist has the authority to demand immediate return? Where does it say that a President is not the ultimate arbiter on what is classified or what is not? It certainly does not give that authority to government bureaucrats.

 

[Jarod]

The majority of the charges involve violations of the Espionage Act.

Are you drunk again?

So? That is the name of the act, not the legal language of the required intent.

 

[Earl]

It was in a very unsecure location. His security detail is tasked with protecting him, not documents.

Who was tasked to protect Biden’s classified documents in his…Garage?

Cocaine Hunter, who lived in his home…with his prostitutes?