Does trump have a viable defense?

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Obama did not refuse to hand over records.

Try Again

Obama is not Biden either, although he controls Biden.

 

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What is the defense?

He already answered that question too. RQAA. Stop mindlessly repeating the question.

 

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Haha ok, you are just sure there is one. I understand.

Is this something Trump should be prosecuted for?

Why should Trump be prosecuted for Yakuda saying he isn't a lawyer???

 

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Obama is completely irrelevant.

Fallacy fallacy. No irrelevance fallacy occurred. Obama is relevant to this conversation.

 

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Are you unable to understand the what the word "retains" means?
or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

The only circle seems to be the jerk you are doing.
No other President has failed to comply with a subpoena. No other President has failed to return classified information when told to do so. Those are the acts that break the law.

What subpoena??? What classified information??

 

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Did Biden personally show them the documents? Did Biden know they were looking at the documents? Once again, we are back to the actual law which requires knowledge and intent before it is a crime. Something you seem to be completely ignorant of.
The willful intent requirment is why Hillary wasn't charged and why Trump would not have been charged if he had returned the documents when he was asked to. If Trump had returned the documents there would have been no crime to investigate and no involvement by the FBI.

The FBI has no jurisdiction here. They broke the law.
No crime took place.
Trump does not have to return anything.

 

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But you are sure in this case their is a valid defense. I understand.

RQAA. Stop mindlessly asking this question. It's already been answered multiple times.

 

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So do you think he has a valid defense?

Yes.

 

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You got it backwards.

Dems and libz are not stupid. Look at how many and easily we prosecute top Repucliclowns and put them in jail, for doing nothing, as you guys say. Heck, even under a GOP POTUS and AG with a GOP head of the FBI, we see those repbliclowns going to jail by the boatload.


It is Repuubliclowns who are so painfully stupid, that you guys see all this obvious Dem criminality and you simply cannot indict any of it. You really need to reflect on that and how stupid that means you are. GOP investigations after investigation, Special Prosecutors, all getting NOTHING. It is as if a Dem could shoot some one in front of you idiots and you would be stuck sucking your thumb and unable to do a single prosecution.

Checkmate Republiclowns you are painfully stupid. You need to quit this game as you are outmatched. You have met your betters.

Being proud of biased prosecutors and turning the FBI into a Gestapo is not something to crow about.

 

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My biggest concern, and it isn't that big, is that this incompetent judge will direct a verdict for Trump. I really don't understand the Trump cult psyche, but it appears she is a card carrying member. Would she be willing to ruin her reputation and her career to save Trump from this one indictment, when others are surely coming, and they WON'T be brought in the Southern District of Florida. I have a feeling that the appellate court slapping her on the nose with a newspaper will probably do the trick. She might want to stay on this case to prove she can be unbiased. But again, the mentality of cults isn't something I can relate to.

If she is competent she will throw the case out on a directive verdict. The whole case is garbage. It violates the Constitution.

 

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The odds that this ends in anything other than Trump being convicted is probably less than 5% Spoiler alert.

Math error. Failure to declare boundary. Failure to declare randX. Probability math doesn't apply here. Argument from randU fallacy.

 

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And if you have read the indictment, you should hope that the odds approach 100%. Everyone who voted for Trump is going to have to admit they made a mistake. Because there is incontrovertible evidence that Trump stole top secret classified documents, many of them speaking to our military capabilities and those of our allies. And we know he showed them to people who had no business seeing them. We also know that Jarod Kushner got 2 billion dollars from the Saudis. If you are not firmly for the conviction of Donald Truimp, you are anti-American. It's that simple. This isn't joking around a message board. What Trump did may very well get many people killed. Your dismissive response is, again IMHO, completely inappropriate. My two cents.

Evidence is not a proof. What is the evidence?

 

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Hard to see anything but conviction.

The "I can do anything I want" will not hold up in court.

It holds up in court all the time. If a government has no jurisdiction to create a law, you can do whatever you want. No court can create law.

 

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Agree with everything you said. Trump is clearly a traitor.

Specification?

 

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So, YOU GOT HIM THIS TIME...

They've been saying THAT for EIGHT YEARS, since BEFORE Trump became President!

 

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No, offence (?), but almost nothing of what you write makes sense.

It makes perfect sense. Too bad you don't understand English.

 

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Trumptards eventually prove how useless they are.

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001

You really should read the shit you link to.

Did President Obama take Presidential records to Chicago after he left office?

No. When President Obama left office in 2017, NARA took physical and legal custody of the records of his administration in accordance with the Presidential Records Act. NARA made arrangements to move the roughly 30 million pages of paper Presidential records of the Obama administration to a federally acquired, modified, and secured temporary facility that NARA leased in Hoffman Estates, IL, which meets NARA’s requirements for records storage and security.

Did you know that Trump was working with NARA???

 

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duhhhh nazis n'stuff

To Uncensored2008,

QED

 

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It looks like a very strong case for the prosecution, but I’m often amazed by what a jury might do.

Self confirmation. That's a circular argument, dude.

 

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I watched the case once where the prosecutor refused to participate. His supervisor would not allow him to drop the case, but he did not believe in it, because it was so weak.

He did not give an opening statement, he called the one witness to the stand, and allowed him to testify “in the narrative, which means without asking any questions. The Prosecutor did not cross examine any of the defense witnesses. The prosecutor refused to give a closing statement. If Jerry came back 15 minutes into deliberation, and found the defendant guilty.

Who is Jerry?
Attempted proof by contrivance.