Kakhovka Dam on Dnieper Ukraine failed/destroyed

T. A. Gardner said:
Not a war crime. The British did it in WW 2, as did the US, among others. The Germans planned to do it to Russia but never got the chance. The US did it in Korea too. It was proposed in the Vietnam war but not carried out. Dams are considered "strategic" targets for their capacity to produce hydroelectric power, for example.

As far as war crimes go, my opinion on that is--as harsh as this sounds, The only true war crime is losing.
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Eh, I don't know. If Russia did this intentionally, which is likely - it's a real crime against humanity. And it deserves to be viewed that way now, and by the history books.

It would be despicable on every level.
 
BartenderElite said:
Eh, I don't know. If Russia did this intentionally, which is likely - it's a real crime against humanity. And it deserves to be viewed that way now, and by the history books.

It would be despicable on every level.
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No, it's not. It's an act of war. Like I've pointed out, dams have long been targets because of their industrial value as hydroelectric plants. The British deliberately targeted dams in Germany to cause flooding. The Germans broke dykes in Holland deliberately as a means to create obstacles to the Allied advance.
 
Hawkeye10 said:

Ritter agrees with me that the motive is all on the Ukraine side.
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William Scott Ritter Jr. is an American author, pundit, former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission weapons inspector, and a convicted sex offender
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, I'm sure there is. Point out that Britain and the US blew dams up in WW 2 and in subsequent wars (in Korea it was under the auspices of the UN btw so the UN is complicit there), as did Germany and Russia. Japan did it in their war with China too. It's a pretty common target for warfare.
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Indeed. Remember the specially designed bouncing bombs in 7WWII designed to skip across water then blow up the dam.

 
U people who can make yourself believe that the Russians did it have been successfully programed with mind control.

You are not going to be available to help.
 
Lets all at least TRY to be honest for a moment and not completely lie about EVERYTHING shall we. The simple truth is this,.........the driving factor that LWers/ Democrats fully support this war is that it happened when a Democrat held the position of POTUS. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. D voters thought WRONGLY that this war would give old Joe a bump in the polls but it just never did. People know how wrong it is. The dirt involved, the shannanigans that have been pulled by the Biden administration. Now they are dug in and stuck. They have to back this continuing nightmare of a total fuck up.

This the the part where D board members now come in and proclaim how it has always been a fight for liberty and the cause of freedom. Well,....thats TOTAL BULLSHIT and LIES. You know it, I know it, WE ALL KNOW IT. You back this war because Biden and the D's do and THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. This war will ultimately be one of the main reasons the D's are thrown from office. You cant get out of it now......Your'e fucked.
 
You fought the war down to the last Ukrainian from the comfort of your living room couch. How noble of you :rolleyes: . Much of the blood that has been spilled is now on your hands. YOU did this and you did it all for the cause of political partisan BULLSHIT. In the end the Ukrainian people,...or whats left of them anyway,....will DESPISE YOU. And they will be correct in doing so.
 
Stone said:
Lets all at least TRY to be honest for a moment and not completely lie about EVERYTHING shall we. The simple truth is this,.........the driving factor that LWers/ Democrats fully support this war is that it happened when a Democrat held the position of POTUS. THAT IS IT. Nothing more. D voters thought WRONGLY that this war would give old Joe a bump in the polls but it just never did. People know how wrong it is. The dirt involved, the shannanigans that have been pulled by the Biden administration. Now they are dug in and stuck. They have to back this continuing nightmare of a total fuck up.

This the the part where D board members now come in and proclaim how it has always been a fight for liberty and the cause of freedom. Well,....thats TOTAL BULLSHIT and LIES. You know it, I know it, WE ALL KNOW IT. You back this war because Biden and the D's do and THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. This war will ultimately be one of the main reasons the D's are thrown from office. You cant get out of it now......Your'e fucked.
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Ukraine is the death rattle of the West.
 
Stone said:
You fought the war down to the last Ukrainian from the comfort of your living room couch. How noble of you :rolleyes: . Much of the blood that has been spilled is now on your hands. YOU did this and you did it all for the cause of political partisan BULLSHIT. In the end the Ukrainian people,...or whats left of them anyway,....will DESPISE YOU. And they will be correct in doing so.
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The Rump of Ukraine that remains after this is over will be sure that America betrayed them.
 
Meanwhile when THE REAL WAR breaks out in Asia the United States will be flat broke with a depleted military and a depleted oil reserve. To say nothing of a nation split in half from decades of partisan bullshit and hate. Dumb fucks,........total DUMB FUCKS.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Unclear currently what happened, but this is a disaster.
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Thought some here might be interested that Tucker Carlson did his first show on Twitter, currently has over 50 million views. In it, he talks about this dam being blown up, amoung other things. The Epoch Times published an article on it, though I'd share its introduction:

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Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson released the first episode of his new show on Twitter on Tuesday night, delving into the mysterious destruction of a dam in Ukraine.

“As of today, we have come to Twitter, which we hope will be the short wave radio under the blankets,” Carlson stated toward the end of the video. “We’re told there are no gatekeepers here. If that turns out to be false, we’ll leave. But in the meantime, we’re grateful to be here.”

Carlson signed off the show, dubbed “Tucker on Twitter,” saying that he will be back on the platform with “much more, very soon.”

The former Fox News host, who exited the network more than a month ago under unclear circumstances, also made reference to the destruction to the Kakhovka dam in Ukraine this week.

“The Kakhovka dam was effectively Russian,” Carlson said after the clip started. “It was built by the Russian government. It currently sits in Russian- controlled territory. The dam’s reservoir supplies water to Crimea, which has been for the last 240 years home of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.”

And he added: “Blowing up the dam may be bad for Ukraine, but it hurts Russia more, and for precisely that reason, the Ukrainian government has considered destroying it.”

“So really, once the facts start coming in, it becomes much less of a mystery what might have happened to the dam, and a fair person would conclude that the Ukrainians probably blew it up, just as you would assume they blew up Nord Stream, the Russian natural gas pipeline last fall,” Carlson stated. “And in fact, the Ukrainians did do that, as we now know.”
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Source:
Tucker Carlson Launches New Twitter Show Weeks After Leaving Fox | The Epoch Times

Here's Tucker Carlson's Twitter show:
twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419
 

Mostly gravitating towards my view that Ukraine did it because their military is in collapse, this is an excuse for their offensive failing, and slowing down Russia as they take land after.
 
BartenderElite said:
Eh, I don't know. If Russia did this intentionally, which is likely - it's a real crime against humanity. And it deserves to be viewed that way now, and by the history books.

It would be despicable on every level.
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Glad to get you on record saying that. Then when its proven that ukraine actually did it we can hold you accountable to your own words Thanks!
 
Stone said:
Glad to get you on record saying that. Then when its proven that ukraine actually did it we can hold you accountable to your own words Thanks!
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There is a theory that the truth always comes out eventually. It is not actually true.
 
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