THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- NOVEMBER 2009

It's also interesting to note that back in March, bravo didn't seem to buy into the "cyclic" view of the economy; he was predicting disaster because of Obama's stimulus.

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This is good - it's useful. You can see the Hannity talking points starting to come together when it's the mid-terms next year & the economy is back in gear.

Why, Obama was just a bystander. Even though we predicted disaster if the stimulus passed, it's all just cyclic, anyway!

Predicted disaster?.....I don't go that far, but its obvious, the stimulus was only a waste of taxpayers money(like the Bush bail-out waste)....most of it wasn't even spent so it hardly had anything to do with the recovery in progress....so, I agree...for all practical purposes, he was a bystander....
the only thing I see that might cause trouble is the healthcare crap and a tax increase...other than those two issues, it might just as well be Bush in his third term.....so, go ahead, put you money back in the market.....
 
This is good - it's useful. You can see the Hannity talking points starting to come together when it's the mid-terms next year & the economy is back in gear.

Why, Obama was just a bystander. Even though we predicted disaster if the stimulus passed, it's all just cyclic, anyway!

The average american voter is not aware of, or believe that, it is all CYCLIC.
They will probably/hopefully put blaim, as far as the economy is concerned, where it belongs.
 
Predicted disaster?.....I don't go that far, but its obvious, the stimulus was only a waste of taxpayers money(like the Bush bail-out waste)....most of it wasn't even spent so it hardly had anything to do with the recovery in progress....so, I agree...for all practical purposes, he was a bystander....
the only thing I see that might cause trouble is the healthcare crap and a tax increase...other than those two issues, it might just as well be Bush in his third term.....so, go ahead, put you money back in the market.....

Not what you were saying in March. This site has a wonderful search mechanism.

Don't you ever get tired of spinning so much? Doesn't your brain just want a rest? Sometimes, it's just easier to say "I called that wrong...maybe Obama is doing something right after all"....
 
It's also interesting to note that back in March, bravo didn't seem to buy into the "cyclic" view of the economy; he was predicting disaster because of Obama's stimulus.

Oops.

Whats even more interesting, is that you're full of shit....what you claim, never happened that I can remember....
The 'stimulous' is a waste of tax money, driving us deeper in debt and that is problematic and will come to haunt us in the future, no matter what party is in the white house....
We've survived Dems in the past and we'll survive this one....
 
This is good - it's useful. You can see the Hannity talking points starting to come together when it's the mid-terms next year & the economy is back in gear.

Why, Obama was just a bystander. Even though we predicted disaster if the stimulus passed, it's all just cyclic, anyway!

What's hilarious is how many years it took Reagan to recover jobs. It took YEARS. But it's all cyclical.
 
The average american voter is not aware of, or believe that, it is all CYCLIC.
They will probably/hopefully put blaim, as far as the economy is concerned, where it belongs.

They never put blame where it belongs, they put it on whatever party and person is in the white house....
Johnson's 'great society' programs didn't create real problems until he was well out of office...he his responsible for billions of dollars of our debt, but he won't get the blame from the average citizen....thats quite normal .....
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They never put blame where it belongs, they put it on whatever party and person is in the white house....
Johnson's 'great society' programs didn't create real problems until he was well out of office...he his responsible for billions of dollars of our debt, but he won't get the blame from the average citizen....thats quite normal .....

Well, considering the 2006/2008 elections, and Bush's 8 LONG years in office, I think the people finally put the blaim where it belonged.
 
Good news? Good news that unemployment increases at a lower rate. Gee, yes, such a PHENOMENAL piece of news! I mean, Christmas season puts on, traditionally, a large number of seasonal jobs, and this, of course affects the UE figures as it always has this time of year. Add 200,000 low paying seasonal service jobs, lose 211,000 manufacturing, construction, and other permanent middle-income jobs, and lo - its GREAT news because we only lost 11,000 jobs this month! Does anyone READ the information provided, or are they pulling a Bush and cherry picking only those giblets that support their view? Did you cheer leading idiots notice that TEMPORARY service jobs were the cause of the greatest increase in jobs, while real jobs continue to fall? It's right there in the last sentence of the introductory paragraph, as well as included in the details of following paragraphs. Guess what happens when the temporary service jobs go away at the end of the Christmas season?

And why is it those who were so insistent that the 4% UE figures were inaccurate due to exclusion of discouraged workers and underemployed are so HAPPY to accept the figure for 10% now, completely disregarding the 17+% figures estimated using discouraged workers and underemployed?

Why is it the liberal of today acts as if they got a lobotomy and replaced their frontasl lobes with a digital ad generator from the DNC?
 
Good news? Good news that unemployment increases at a lower rate. Gee, yes, such a PHENOMENAL piece of news! I mean, Christmas season puts on, traditionally, a large number of seasonal jobs, and this, of course affects the UE figures as it always has this time of year. Add 200,000 low paying seasonal service jobs, lose 211,000 manufacturing, construction, and other permanent middle-income jobs, and lo - its GREAT news because we only lost 11,000 jobs this month! Does anyone READ the information provided, or are they pulling a Bush and cherry picking only those giblets that support their view? Did you cheer leading idiots notice that TEMPORARY service jobs were the cause of the greatest increase in jobs, while real jobs continue to fall? It's right there in the last sentence of the introductory paragraph, as well as included in the details of following paragraphs. Guess what happens when the temporary service jobs go away at the end of the Christmas season?

And why is it those who were so insistent that the 4% UE figures were inaccurate due to exclusion of discouraged workers and underemployed are so HAPPY to accept the figure for 10% now, completely disregarding the 17+% figures estimated using discouraged workers and underemployed?

Why is it the liberal of today acts as if they got a lobotomy and replaced their frontasl lobes with a digital ad generator from the DNC?

No one is ignoring anything. I understand that the 10% figure is not a complete figure, just as 4% wasn't under Bush. I understand that there is a large increase in temp employment at this time.

HOWEVER, no one was expecting a decrease like this. And this includes pretty much everyone in the economic field & on Wall Street - who, I think, understand the whole "temp employment" dynamic.

Sorry the good news is so bad for you.
 
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No one is ignoring anything. I understand that the 10% figure is not a complete figure, just as 4% wasn't under Bush. I understand that there is a large increase in temp employment at this time.

HOWEVER, no one was expecting a decrease like this. And this includes pretty much everyone in the economic field & on Wall Street - who, I think, understand the whole "temp employment" dynamic.

Sorry the good news is so bad for you.

Are you trying to give the impression that Bush unemployment numbers had something to do with seasonal jobs?

Lets put things in perspective....

Bush was in office for 96 months.....

83 of those months had unemployment under 6.0%, even with the most horrific terrorist attack on the country and collapse of the World Trade Center....
 
Are you trying to give the impression that Bush unemployment numbers had something to do with seasonal jobs?

Lets put things in perspective....

Bush was in office for 96 months.....

83 of those months had unemployment under 6.0%, even with the most horrific terrorist attack on the country and collapse of the World Trade Center....

Dude - the bottom fell out w/ Bush in charge. Period.

Give it up.
 
what do you mean? are you saying that the bottom around march of this year was all due to obama?

Why do you take no issue with bravo's statement?

I was in agreement with Good Luck that employment %'s at any time are not accurate, and reflective of the full situation. That's all I was saying.

But bravo saw fit to remove Bush's genitals from his mouth just long enough to try to portray Bush as some sort of adequate steward of the economy, even though EVERYTHING that led up to the crash happened on Bush's watch.

No, that doesn't mean that I blame Bush for the entire crash.
 
Why do you take no issue with bravo's statement?

I was in agreement with Good Luck that employment %'s at any time are not accurate, and reflective of the full situation. That's all I was saying.

But bravo saw fit to remove Bush's genitals from his mouth just long enough to try to portray Bush as some sort of adequate steward of the economy, even though EVERYTHING that led up to the crash happened on Bush's watch.

No, that doesn't mean that I blame Bush for the entire crash.

i actually didn't read his statement, i quickly glanced at yours...

thanks for clearing it up

and next time i'll be on better behavior board police captain.....
 
i actually didn't read his statement, i quickly glanced at yours...

thanks for clearing it up

and next time i'll be on better behavior board police captain.....

You didn't read his statement?

What kind of basis were you responding to my statement on?

You're a total drive-by...
 
Why do you take no issue with bravo's statement?

I was in agreement with Good Luck that employment %'s at any time are not accurate, and reflective of the full situation. That's all I was saying.

But bravo saw fit to remove Bush's genitals from his mouth just long enough to try to portray Bush as some sort of adequate steward of the economy, even though EVERYTHING that led up to the crash happened on Bush's watch.

No, that doesn't mean that I blame Bush for the entire crash.


Whats to take issue with clown....what I stated is just FACT.....I realize facts just piss you people off......but sooner of later you just have to face them......the truth will set you free!!!:lol:


Bush was in office for 96 months.....

83 of those months had unemployment under 6.0%, even with the most horrific terrorist attack on the country and collapse of the World Trade Center....


But then the Democrats took over Congress....
 
Whats to take issue with clown....what I stated is just FACT.....I realize facts just piss you people off......but sooner of later you just have to face them......the truth will set you free!!!:lol:


Bush was in office for 96 months.....

83 of those months had unemployment under 6.0%, even with the most horrific terrorist attack on the country and collapse of the World Trade Center....


But then the Democrats took over Congress....


It's weird; I just checked the dictionary under "hack", and there was a reference to a bravo on JPP!

Well, righties (and that means you, Yurt!) - defend the above....
 
It's weird; I just checked the dictionary under "hack", and there was a reference to a bravo on JPP!

Well, righties (and that means you, Yurt!) - defend the above....

Why don't dispute it, instead....

Are the statistics in question ?...is the math wrong?....they might be, maybe I miscounted.....

Bush was there when the downturn started in Jan. 2008 and he gets the credit for that too.....so what....

I don't dispute the facts...
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You didn't read his statement?

What kind of basis were you responding to my statement on?

You're a total drive-by...

you're such a crybaby....i was moving from one project to another, came here, skimmed a few posts and left....

are you going to arrest me mr. board police captain? i don't see you out taking libs on this board to task you hypocrite....
 
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