Hmm looks familiar

Nomad said:
To make that claim, you have to ignore where I qualified the term "God" with "or rather nature" in order to clarify that I'm not attributing anything to God or any will or intention of any God.

You even went so far as to delete the word 'rather' in your quotation marks, to try to weaken or dilute my intention.

If you have to resort to such dishonest tricks, you've already lost the argument.

Or you're acknowledging that you have no argument.

No wonder you don't want to dwell on it. :laugh:



Brain wiring might be a science, but very little is known about it. Certainly nowhere near enough to make the kinds of pronouncements you are making.

There is no physical "wiring system" in the brain that can be removed, dissected and examined like the nerves that connect our brains to our muscles.

Brain "wiring" is just a euphemistic term for something that exists in the realm of thought.

Psychiatry.
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Not being known doesn't make it "not science" - that could be applied to anything in natural history.

And it doesn't make your definitive pronouncements about what is & isn't science on this topic more valid.

I did not leave "rather" out intentionally. But it doesn't really change that you also included "God" in your original declaration.
 
Nordberg said:
Trans and gays have always existed.
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Homosexuals, lesbians and bisexuals, yes.

Transexuals, no.

Unless you can prove through historical documentation that transsexuals existed in ancient times, medieval times, the middle ages, colonial times, victorian times, the early 20th century etc, then you are grossly exaggerating.

I'm assuming you understand that the prefix "trans" has to do with "transitioning", which involves medical procedures that did not exist prior to the late 20th century, right?

Nordberg said:
They exist in every society. https://prezi.com/2oeqkdzonspd/transexuals-around-the-world/ They are not doing anything to you, just trying to be what god made them to be. They want to live their lives as well as they can. Several times I have posted about the complications in determining the sex of people. They have enough trouble getting through life without your ignorant judgmental asses making their lives scary and dangerous.
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I never claimed they are doing anything to me other than making me sick of them with their constant pansy-ass crybaby whining.

If they want to be accepted, let them keep their sexual and romantic business to themselves.

If they want to hold hands and kiss in public, the rest of us can just look the other way.

No problem.

But what we cannot escape or avoid is their constant (figuratively speaking) beating us over the head with their issues.

Either understand that you're doing more to alienate and drive people to the right, or live with the consequences when the GOP controls every aspect of government.

THEN you'll have something to piss your panties and cry about.
 
BartenderElite said:
Not being known doesn't make it "not science" - that could be applied to anything in natural history.

And it doesn't make your definitive pronouncements about what is & isn't science on this topic more valid.

I did not leave "rather" out intentionally. But it doesn't really change that you also included "God" in your original declaration.
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:palm:

You're just devolving from silliness into acute irrational silliness.

Let me know when you come up with a rational argument.

Right now, my dinner is ready and my favorite Saturday night TV shows are coming on, so I no longer wish to endulge you for the time being.
 
AProudLefty said:
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I’m gonna get my free Bud Light at Costco while it lasts. :)
 
Nomad said:
:palm:

You're just devolving from silliness into acute irrational silliness.

Let me know when you come up with a rational argument.

Right now, my dinner is ready and my favorite Saturday night TV shows are coming on, so I no longer wish to endulge you for the time being.
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Nothing "silly" about it.

You're using the term "science" in a way that's more agenda-centric, and I'm respecting what it actually is.
 
As one of the general contractors I work with said...

I don't give a shit about all that gay stuff. But I do when they try to cram it down my throat. Fuck 'em!

That is to say, a lot, most, almost all, of the backlash against LGBTPDQRSTUV whatever isn't hatred of gays or gay bashing, but rather people saying don't flaunt it in public, and don't force me to watch. People are beginning to say "Enough! Stop putting it on Front Street and put it back in the bedroom." Their way of responding is to stop patronizing products and companies that cave to the alphabet of sex's demands.

I'd say the Left and the LGBTPDQRSTUVW community better get used to companies crumbling when they do cave because it's very likely boycotts and other pushback is going to increase, and increase massively in the near future. It's 10% of the population (radical Left + gays) versus the other 90% saying "Stop!"
 
T. A. Gardner said:
As one of the general contractors I work with said...

I don't give a shit about all that gay stuff. But I do when they try to cram it down my throat. Fuck 'em!

That is to say, a lot, most, almost all, of the backlash against LGBTPDQRSTUV whatever isn't hatred of gays or gay bashing, but rather people saying don't flaunt it in public, and don't force me to watch. People are beginning to say "Enough! Stop putting it on Front Street and put it back in the bedroom." Their way of responding is to stop patronizing products and companies that cave to the alphabet of sex's demands.

I'd say the Left and the LGBTPDQRSTUVW community better get used to companies crumbling when they do cave because it's very likely boycotts and other pushback is going to increase, and increase massively in the near future. It's 10% of the population (radical Left + gays) versus the other 90% saying "Stop!"
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It's always "cramming it down my throat!"

A picture of a rainbow, or a single can of beer.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
As one of the general contractors I work with said...

I don't give a shit about all that gay stuff. But I do when they try to cram it down my throat. Fuck 'em!
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I would have never known about it except for the pussified Bud Light drinking Trumpers like you having a conniption over it, Terry.

What kind of spineless, piece of shit drinks Bud Light except metrosexuals like Kid Rock and Trumpian Dick Suckers (TDS) on JPP?

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T. A. Gardner said:
As one of the general contractors I work with said...

I don't give a shit about all that gay stuff. But I do when they try to cram it down my throat. Fuck 'em!

That is to say, a lot, most, almost all, of the backlash against LGBTPDQRSTUV whatever isn't hatred of gays or gay bashing, but rather people saying don't flaunt it in public, and don't force me to watch. People are beginning to say "Enough! Stop putting it on Front Street and put it back in the bedroom." Their way of responding is to stop patronizing products and companies that cave to the alphabet of sex's demands.

I'd say the Left and the LGBTPDQRSTUVW community better get used to companies crumbling when they do cave because it's very likely boycotts and other pushback is going to increase, and increase massively in the near future. It's 10% of the population (radical Left + gays) versus the other 90% saying "Stop!"
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Yep, the imagery is unmistakable. They cram it down your throat, then pull it back, then cram it down your throat again.
 
Nomad said:
Funny, all I hear lately is how so many of them feel like they were born the wrong gender.

How is that "acting like God made them"?

God (or rather nature) made them male or female for the purpose of procreation.

Same gender sex does not fulfill that purpose.

But still, that would be fine with everyone if that's all they were doing.

But in recent years it has become a social and political agenda, and one which they are targeting children with, which is not OK.

If they'd just shut up, get out of everyone else's face and mind their own business, there would be no problem.

And honestly, any person or group of people who have to march in parades and go around constantly advertising how "proud" they supposedly are, is probably not really proud at all.

Looks more like overcompensation and deep seated inner self loathing to me.



Yeah, sure.

Gays are the ones telling us how they think God gave them the wrong genitalia, but it's righties who think they know more than Him.

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Puh - lease.
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LOL.

You don't really believe that there is a God who created this mess?
 
BartenderElite said:
And God did create homosexuals, and transgenders. What you say is "self loathing" is more people who are confused, because they clearly feel a certain way, but society keeps telling them they're wrong, and that they are wrong to feel that way.

No one can control who they're attracted to, or if they feel like they're in a body that's the wrong gender.

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Succinct.

And once you realize that you seem to be attracted to a specific man/woman, you fully understand homosexuality. But it takes years of continually ending up with the same exact type of mate. Who knows why we tend to be attracted to a specific type? Some say all men are subconsciously attracted to the body type of their mother, with a corresponding attraction for women/fathers.

Intelligent people know that we have no control over who we are attracted to.
 
Nordberg said:
Trans and gays have always existed. They exist in every society. https://prezi.com/2oeqkdzonspd/transexuals-around-the-world/ They are not doing anything to you, just trying to be what god made them to be. They want to live their lives as well as they can. Several times I have posted about the complications in determining the sex of people. They have enough trouble getting through life without your ignorant judgmental asses making their lives scary and dangerous.
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It's only American society that is hung up on all aspects of sex. Watching rape and murder on t.v. is fine. No nudity allowed on network, though

Recently, the hoopla over gay/trans people is solely political.

Ironic that many of the anti gay legislation is written by closeted gay men.
 
Althea said:
LOL.

You don't really believe that there is a God who created this mess?
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Did you not notice where I put "(or rather nature)" in parentheses after God?

I do not disbleive in God, but neither am I convinced.

Some higher force or being, yes I could see that.

But the God of the Bible seems unlikely.

IOW, I'm not an athiest.

But I am an agnostic.
 
Althea said:
It's only American society that is hung up on all aspects of sex. Watching rape and murder on t.v. is fine. No nudity allowed on network, though

Recently, the hoopla over gay/trans people is solely political.

Ironic that many of the anti gay legislation is written by closeted gay men.
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Excuse me, but a couple of things here....

First, you're missing the point.

I've repeated this ad nauseum in this thread alne, nt to mention countless other formats.

But it's not gays or gay sex people are "hung up" on.

It's the fact that the alphabet people won't STFU about it.

If the alphabet whiners would stop going endlessly on and on about it, there would be no hoopla.

And no legislation.

It's because the alphabet crowd is trying to drag kids into their lunatic fringe agenda that the right-wingers are trying to get tough with them.

Each side keeps on tying to test the other side's limits.
 
BartenderElite said:
Nothing "silly" about it.

You're using the term "science" in a way that's more agenda-centric, and I'm respecting what it actually is.
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How so?

What is it about basic biology that is "agenda-centric"?

I think you're just throwing things against the wall to see if they stick.

And no, you're not respecting whatscience actually says.

You're talking bullshit.

Science says nothing about more tha two genders or that people can be whichever gender they identify as.

Pure, utter, 100%, unadulterated poppycock.
 
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