Biden Says He Has Authority to Challenge Debt Limit

T. A. Gardner said:
And, the Republicans have passed one right now. It's sitting in the Senate where Democrats, led by that lying rat Schumer, have said it is "Dead on arrival" and won't even consider it, let alone vote on it. Joke has said several times he'll veto it. The problem at the moment is the Democrats won't even consider a compromise solution. They're demanding a blank check and that's the end of it for them. The Republicans want limits on spending tied to the increase in the debt limit.

The impasse, caused entirely by the intransigence of the Democrats is the problem. This time if the limit isn't fixed, it's 100% on the Democrats as they are unwilling to negotiate and compromise in good faith.
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Republicans didn't pass a "debt ceiling bill". They passed an ideological laundry list bill with a debt ceiling thrown in."
 
The Revolution does what the Revolution wants to do, the Constitution is dead, the laws mean nothing, the rule of law is over, they destroyed it on purpose.
 
BidenPresident said:
President Biden said on Sunday that he believed he had the authority to challenge the constitutionality of the nation’s borrowing limit but that he did not believe such a challenge could succeed in time to avoid a default on federal debt if lawmakers did not raise the limit soon.

“I think we have the authority,” Mr. Biden said at a news conference after the Group of 7 summit in Hiroshima, Japan. “The question is could it be done and invoked in time.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/us/politics/biden-debt-limit.html
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When does it start?
 
floridafan said:
The decision to spend or not to spend is done in Congress. This money has already been spent and we need to pay the bills.
Why didn't you demand limits on spending when Trump was in office. Not once did you complain about his $8 trillion deficits, only now.
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And, Republicans in the House want limits on future spending enacted as part of setting a new debt limit. That is reasonable. The Democrats on the other hand want to continue to spend with no restrictions and have a higher limit on what amounts to the national credit card. That is unreasonable.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You know who pays the Bills in most American Families?

Easy answer- WOMEN!

And women know best that when the bills come due- you have to pay them or things get cut off- No excuses- No exceptions.

So women know right now who is at fault in this debate.

This idea that the Republicans can refuse to raise the debt ceiling just to make Biden look bad- will backfire on the Republicans come election day.

Women are already pissed off at the Republicans for the way they ended Roe Vs. Wade, and this is only making them madder and madder!

Women are the largest voting bloc in America!
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the credit card limit is maxed. when women max their cards, men come and cut them up
 
martin said:
I made the same comment here the day after the bill was passed. The bill by its terms isn't a "debt ceiling bill" since it contains provisions apart from the debt ceiling.
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Many, most, bills that are passed by Congress are not single purpose. In fact, it is normal for bills to have many different things tossed in. Clean, one-subject bills are the rarity, the exception. You are trying to argue that the reverse is suddenly true. It isn't.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Many, most, bills that are passed by Congress are not single purpose. In fact, it is normal for bills to have many different things tossed in. Clean, one-subject bills are the rarity, the exception. You are trying to argue that the reverse is suddenly true. It isn't.
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This bill does have a single purpose - to restructure the national debt of which raising its limit is only one part.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
And, the Republicans have passed one right now. It's sitting in the Senate where Democrats, led by that lying rat Schumer, have said it is "Dead on arrival" and won't even consider it, let alone vote on it. Joke has said several times he'll veto it. The problem at the moment is the Democrats won't even consider a compromise solution. They're demanding a blank check and that's the end of it for them. The Republicans want limits on spending tied to the increase in the debt limit.

The impasse, caused entirely by the intransigence of the Democrats is the problem. This time if the limit isn't fixed, it's 100% on the Democrats as they are unwilling to negotiate and compromise in good faith.
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Nope. They have a bill that forces the president to cancel programs and plans he already has working. That is not part of the debt ceiling. The Dems did not do that to daffy Donald. Nobody has risked the economy to do something like this. They knew the dangers. The Reds do not care. Blow it all up and maybe the people will blame Biden for what the Reds are doing.
 
Nordberg said:
Nope. They have a bill that forces the president to cancel programs and plans he already has working. That is not part of the debt ceiling. The Dems did not do that to daffy Donald. Nobody has risked the economy to do something like this. They knew the dangers. The Reds do not care. Blow it all up and maybe the people will blame Biden for what the Reds are doing.
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Then the President should negotiate a compromise. Given that virtually everything Biden is doing is totally fucked up, that isn't a bad thing either...
 
BidenPresident said:
President Biden said on Sunday that he believed he had the authority to challenge the constitutionality of the nation’s borrowing limit but that he did not believe such a challenge could succeed in time to avoid a default on federal debt if lawmakers did not raise the limit soon.

“I think we have the authority,” Mr. Biden said at a news conference after the Group of 7 summit in Hiroshima, Japan. “The question is could it be done and invoked in time.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/us/politics/biden-debt-limit.html
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The House holds the purse strings, the Executive Branch doesn't. It ain't up to the people running the guy pretending to be Biden.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
And, Republicans in the House want limits on future spending enacted as part of setting a new debt limit. That is reasonable. The Democrats on the other hand want to continue to spend with no restrictions and have a higher limit on what amounts to the national credit card. That is unreasonable.
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That's your usual bullshit handjob, it's getting so boring. We have just seen trump run up an $8 trillion deficit and you blame democrats. I know you dont believe the shit you post.
 
Biden thinks he has the authority to set the debt on his own. This is from the same pResident that thinks he gave a Purple Heart to his dead grandfather. The 14th amendment basically says the US government would pay debt incurred by the North for the civil war but not debt incurred by the South. We have a moron in the oval office.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What an idiotic analogy. Families can't arbitrarily and unilaterally raise their debt limit. That requires compromise with creditors.

The same goes for the federal government. The Republicans have passed a bill in the House to raise the debt limit. The Democrats in the Senate, led by that asshole Schumer, won't even consider it. Biden says he'll veto it. The problem isn't Republicans, it's Democrats.

It is typical of the assholes on the Left (like you) that refuse to compromise. Like the little kids you act like, you throw a tantrum and refuse all attempts to compromise and act like adults. Well, if the debt ceiling doesn't get raised, it's 100% on the Democrats this time for failing to negotiate, compromise, or do anything other than act like petulant six-year-olds.
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Indeed.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
no, he's not correct. anyone who believes that the president has any power over a congressional power is an idiot of epic proportions
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Read the 14th, it doesn’t give the president any power, but it requires the Congress to honor/pay its debts.

“ The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. ”
 
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