Daniel Penny charged with manslaughter in Jordan Neely’s subway chokehold death

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Witness to Jordan Neely chokehold death calls Daniel Penny a 'hero'

"A retiree who witnessed Marine veteran Daniel Penny fatally choke an erratic homeless man on a train earlier this month called him a hero and slammed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg for prosecuting him.

"He’s a hero," said the passenger, who has lived in New York City more than 50 years.

The witness, who described herself as a woman of color, said it was wrong for Bragg to charge Penny with second-degree manslaughter.

"It was self-defense, and I believe in my heart that he saved a lot of people that day that could have gotten hurt," she told Fox News Digital.

Jordan Neely, 30, who suffered from mental illness, stormed onto the northbound F train at about 2:30 p.m. May 1 screaming and threatening passengers, she said.


"The People on that train, we were scared. We were scared for our lives,"

"I’m sitting on a train reading my book, and, all of a sudden, I hear someone spewing this rhetoric. He said, ‘I don’t care if I have to kill an F, I will. I’ll go to jail, I’ll take a bullet,’" recalled the woman, who is in her 60s.

The terrified passengers crowded toward the exit doors.

"I’m looking at where we are in the tube, in the sardine can, and I’m like, ‘OK, we’re in between stations. There’s nowhere we can go,’" she said. "The people on that train, we were scared. We were scared for our lives."

Penny stepped in when Neely started using the word "kill" and "bullet."

"Why in the world would you take a bullet? Why? You don’t take a bullet because you’ve snatched something from somebody’s hand. You take a bullet for violence," she added.

The witness said it was clear to her that Penny waited until the last minute to intervene for the sake of his fellow passengers.

She heard a thump when he dragged Neely to the ground but couldn’t see clearly until the doors opened at the Broadway-Lafayette station and most of the passengers exited.

The witness waited for police to arrive and provided a statement.

"Mr. Penny cared for people. That’s what he did. That is his crime," she told Fox News Digital. After the altercation, she and at least three other passengers thanked him.


But he seemed shaken, the woman said.

"Nobody wants to kill anybody. Mr. Penny didn’t want to kill that man," she said. "You should have seen the way Mr. Penny looked. He was distraught. He was very, very, very visibly distressed. And he didn’t go. He didn’t run. He stayed."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/witness-j...iel-penny-hero
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This was self defense. Penny is a hero. Neely was a clear danger to the lives of the people he was threatening."

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There is your PROOF that this was justifiable self defense.
 
ExpressLane said:
There is your PROOF that this was justifiable self defense.
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It was a righteous kill. Unfortunate that the leaders of NYC allowed him to roam the streets after 40 plus arrests.

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A witness ..."He’s a hero," said the passenger, who has lived in New York City more than 50 years.

The witness, who described herself as a woman of color, said it was wrong for Bragg to charge Penny with second-degree manslaughter.

"It was self-defense, and I believe in my heart that he saved a lot of people that day that could have gotten hurt," she told Fox News Digital.

Jordan Neely, 30, who suffered from mental illness, stormed onto the northbound F train at about 2:30 p.m. May 1 screaming and threatening passengers, she said.
 
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You've got to love the special personal touches haphazardly thrown about...lol...
 
TOP said:
There is no link to what Daniel Penny intended to do...
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Correct, but luckily we all have eyes. He put Neely in a hold, around his neck, that was specifically designed to NOT cut off airflow, but only blood flow and the second he went limp, Penny immediately rolled him into a specific recovery position, that is designed to protect the unconscious person against, among other things, choking on their own vomit if they should throw up. But, yes, I'm sure that was all just a coincidence.
 
ZenMode said:
Correct, but luckily we all have eyes. He put Neely in a hold, around his neck, that was specifically designed to NOT cut off airflow, but only blood flow and the second he went limp, Penny immediately rolled him into a specific recovery position, that is designed to protect the unconscious person against, among other things, choking on their own vomit if they should throw up. But, yes, I'm sure that was all just a coincidence.
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Again...I didn't know you were there
You should probably offer your services for the prosecution...
 
TOP said:
Again...I didn't know you were there
You should probably offer your services for the prosecution...
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While it should be obvious to anyone who's watched the video that he knew what he was doing, it really doesn't matter. He held a choke hold until the guy went limp and died. The fact that he didn't mean to kill him is why he's being charged with manslaughter and not murder.
 
ZenMode said:
While it should be obvious to anyone who's watched the video that he knew what he was doing, it really doesn't matter. He held a choke hold until the guy went limp and died. The fact that he didn't mean to kill him is why he's being charged with manslaughter and not murder.
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I think it's obvious he was restraining someone who was in the middle of a psychotic rage and threatening a car full of other people...
Nothing else is "obvious".. And of course it matters...One young man is dead...the other young man's life has changed forever, even if charges are dropped or he is found not guilty..which should be a given...
Neely should have never been in on the subway that day...or ever...Many are responsible for what happened that afternoon...
 
ExpressLane said:
I call Owl BS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/21/...te-in-case-of-man-beaten-to-death-on-jet.html
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Wow, good comeback there. You found an article from 23 years ago where a passenger -- one of the millions upon millions who have flown commercial flights from 2000 to 2023 -- was killed. :clap:

"Debating" with you truly is like

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TOP said:
I think it's obvious he was restraining someone who was in the middle of a psychotic rage and threatening a car full of other people...
Nothing else is "obvious".. And of course it matters...One young man is dead...the other young man's life has changed forever, even if charges are dropped or he is found not guilty..which should be a given...
Neely should have never been in on the subway that day...or ever...Many are responsible for what happened that afternoon...
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The beauty of our justice system is that it assumes innocence and puts the burden of proof on the prosecution. That being the case many people escape accountability for their crimes and are free to walk the streets. Other people, for a variety of reasons, are given lighter sentences than they deserve. The flaws in our justice system don't make wrongly ending another person's life acceptable.
 
ZenMode said:
The beauty of our justice system is that it assumes innocence and puts the burden of proof on the prosecution. That being the case many people escape accountability for their crimes and are free to walk the streets. Other people, for a variety of reasons, are given lighter sentences than they deserve. The flaws in our justice system don't make wrongly ending another person's life acceptable.
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No one is saying that a death is acceptable... but he would be alive if the justice system wasn't so flawed... it's really not acceptable to escape accountability 44 times...
 
TOP said:
No one is saying that a death is acceptable... but he would be alive if the justice system wasn't so flawed... it's really not acceptable to escape accountability 44 times...
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He would be alive if Penny hadn't cut blood flow to his brain and killed him.
 
ZenMode said:
He would be alive if Penny hadn't cut blood flow to his brain and killed him.
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That's unfortunate, isn't it ? But he should have never been on the train that day having a psychotic episode... it will be interesting to see what else if anything contributed to his death... There will always be those such as yourself who will place the entire blame on Daniel Penny ...who was just trying to protect everyone else n the car... and according to those interviewed so far justifiably so..
 
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