LIB hero & serial adulterer, Bill Clinton bombshell apology for causing Ukraine war

ExpressLane said:
Clinton is a sex criminal he sexually assaulted Jones and raped Juanita Broaddrick.
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Goalpost move?

I thought people were innocent until proven guilty? Regardless, if that WAS the case, Bigdog should have presented it like that. He/she didn't. He/she said "serial adulterer." Are you not able to address that specifically?
 
And as long as you're taking allegations at face value - there are MANY more against Trump. Trump has a rape case going on right now.
 
ExpressLane said:
Ukraine will win this war. The Ukrainians WANT to fight Russia. Europe knows what it is like to live under Russia's oppressive thumb. As long as they WANT to fight we should help them when they no longer want to fight we should help them negotiate peace.
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The Russians never wanted to dominate Ukraine....they wanted Ukraine to be neutral. Starting in 2014 it was effectively NATO with Russia constantly warning that this is not OK. Your mind has been captured by propaganda....you do not see reality you see what you have been instructed to believe by your overlords.
 
BartenderElite said:
Goalpost move?

I thought people were innocent until proven guilty? Regardless, if that WAS the case, Bigdog should have presented it like that. He/she didn't. He/she said "serial adulterer." Are you not able to address that specifically?
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AGAIN I don't care what a person's morals are as long as it is consensual and not in the Oval Office. Bill Clinton had at least a couple non consensual encounters. I am far more concerned about a politicians politics than his sexual morals. A lot of very powerful men have very poor sexual morals. Even Joe Biden had an affair with Jill while she was married. Big deal. My beef with him is about his policy.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Russians never wanted to dominate Ukraine....they wanted Ukraine to be neutral. Starting in 2014 it was effectively NATO with Russia constantly warning that this is not OK. Your mind has been captured by propaganda....you do not see reality you see what you have been instructed to believe by your overlords.
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I'm not buying that. They took Georgia too.
 
BartenderElite said:
And as long as you're taking allegations at face value - there are MANY more against Trump. Trump has a rape case going on right now.
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Yeah that woman can't remember the year and was raped in a dressing room in a crowded Department store and no one heard a thing. And she was raped again in an elevator by someone else. I guess some people are unlucky and get raped a lot?


:facepalm:
 
ExpressLane said:
AGAIN I don't care what a person's morals are as long as it is consensual and not in the Oval Office. Bill Clinton had at least a couple non consensual encounters. I am far more concerned about a politicians politics than his sexual morals. A lot of very powerful men have very poor sexual morals. Even Joe Biden had an affair with Jill while she was married. Big deal. My beef with him is about his policy.
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My 1st response to the OP stands. Re: the bolded - Trump had a few more.

I think both guys are sleaze. But partisans should be consistent on that.
 
ExpressLane said:
Yeah that woman can't remember the year and was raped in a dressing room in a crowded Department store and no one heard a thing. And she was raped again in an elevator. I guess some people are unlucky and get raped a lot?


:facepalm:
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There have been over 20 accusers for Trump at this point.
 
We can do this all day, EL. You're a partisan who will defend Trump no matter what, and ignore the accusations against him.

But the fact is - there are MANY more accusations against him than against Clinton.
 
ExpressLane said:
We will have to agree to disagree.
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The rest of the world generally knows that this war was caused by the US, that Russia did everything possible to avoid it coming to this, and that it is the Russians who have been generally honest as America generally has lied and acted without honor.

Hopefully you one day wise up, you are simply wrong.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The rest of the world generally knows that this war was caused by the US, that Russia did everything possible to avoid it coming to this, and that it is the Russians who have been generally honest as America generally has lied and acted without honor.

Hopefully you one day wise up.
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:rofl2: Please stop :rofl2:
 
No facepalm response?

You still trying to figure out how you can demand court convictions for a Republican, but easily accuse a Democrat of rape without any court ruling, and have it not seem like you have an epic double standard?
 
BartenderElite said:
You believe Juanita Broderick.

What stark hypocrisy, right on this thread.
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Juanita told people at the time. So did Tara Reade BTW.

My own sister in law was a model for Ducks Unlimited at a convention in Arkansas (she was smoking hot at the time) . Bill Clinton sent one of his security detail over to invite her to his hotel suite , she said no. Undeterred he came over to her and invited her himself. She told him no again. That is when he was governor. Then when he ran for president he was accused of horn doggery and he was on the news denying it. My sister in law looked at the news and said I met him and repeated her story. I actually vote for Bill for his second term.
 
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