Colleges Should Be More Than Just Vocational Schools

How many people--what proportion of the population-- really needs a liberal arts degree? Today, in the US, we have a glut of lawyers we don't need, lots of people with some useless liberal arts degree driving an Uber or managing a Burger King, while there is a massive shortage of skilled tradespeople across the board.

Seems to me we need lots more people with technical or trades training and degrees and a whole lot less of ones with useless degrees in womyn's studies, art history, political science, and the like.

Today the Liberal Arts degree is the most useless degree in existence.
 
Everybody could use an education focusing on history, art, and literature. College was intended to round a person put introducing them to other thoughts and people. It was once intended to make gentlemen out of people. Now it is seen as a glorified apprenticeship.
There are no useless degrees. College can change people.

Since you and other Democrat fucks discard history, destroy art, destroy literature, and you can't even understand English, you must've never gone to college, then!

Yes, there are useless degrees. The Liberal Arts degree is the most useless degree in existence. Another useless degree is the Church of Global Warming degree (sometimes called an 'Earth "science"' degree).
You obviously have no idea what the word 'apprenticeship' means either.
Too bad you never learned English, you illiterate fool.
 
Even though I got a STEM degree, I was still required to take classes in English, government and civics, and several electives in the humanities to get my degree. And that's how it should be

Yes you still had to go through the indoctrination classes. I see you did well in those.
 
In my circle the big topic of conversation is debating whether Universities can be saved or not.

I lean hard towards can not, at least until after the coming BIG PAIN does its work.

These Moderns Morons are some stupendously stupid fucks.
 
College students should be required to present a business plan on where they intend to find a job what the odds of them finding that job and how long and how large a payment would be for them to pay off their college loan BEFORE they receive a federally insured college loan. Every college should be required to teach a 2hr class for each freshman, sophomore, junior and senior year on college loans and grants and scholarships.

BTW I'd love to watch a typical liberal arts student that looks down their noses at tradesmen try to figure out how to wire their own house or frame it. :laugh:

My son is a fireman and his best friend is a Mechanical engineer. They went to high school together. My son STILL makes more money and has worked in his field for 3 more years and has ZERO college debt.

Well put. While I did go to college (engineering) I paid my way through. I also have zero college debt and make nice money. While I built my own house and wired it (and plumbed it!), I do appreciate the tradesmen. They not only build houses and wire them, they also make the nails, the electrical wiring, boxes, and hardware, the pipes, run the backhoes and loaders to move material, make everything from toilets to cars to spacecraft, but also grow and ranch the food for the nation and truck everything to where it needs to go.

I couldn't have built my house or my business without them!

The liberal arts degrees? They have no place in my business. They can't do anything (but whine).
 
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In my circle the big topic of conversation is debating whether Universities can be saved or not.

I lean hard towards can not, at least until after the coming BIG PAIN does its work.

These Moderns Morons are some stupendously stupid fucks.

They can. Remember that not all students in these places are getting liberal arts degrees or other useless degrees.
There are some very fine universities that are good medical training, engineering, computer science, music and acting, even agriculture.
Sure, the indoctrination classes are everywhere, especially in grade school, but some people ignore that and can get on with their life.

The coming Big Pain that you speak of could very well do a lot to remove the useless indoctrination crap from schools.

More people than ever before are moving their kids into private schools or home schooling. There's a reason.
 
Oh I don't know but my son has saved multiple lives and his friend designs AC units. But yes lack of debt and a very comfortable lifestyle is pretty important also.


I have a granddaughter who married a deadbeat (not my son's kid). He literally told me money wasn't important to him (He won't keep a job.) So he has had her call to beg me for money when he was going to get evicted and when this car was getting repossessed and when his kid needed a minor surgery. (Which was really covered under Medicaid :palm:)

The saving lives and making a contribution are the things that count. Money? Not so much. Certainly not a measure of one’s value.
 
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