Brawls at S.F. mall ignite wider concern about youth violence

cawacko

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This hits home for me because my nieces and nephews are this age. What happened with COVID has already happened but this is part of the fallout (California kept kids locked down longer than most). I'm rather shocked a SF Supervisor admitted the bolded below but its reality.

This board leans older but anyone else here have kids around this age dealing with this type of thing?




‘It’s not just Stonestown’: Brawls at S.F. mall ignite wider concern about youth violence


A pair of violent brawls involving dozens of adolescents at a San Francisco mall have prompted a call to action to address youth violence, with a hearing on the issue proposed at the Board of Supervisors.

At least two minors were injured in the two fights at Stonestown Galleria shopping center last week.

San Francisco District 7 Supervisor Myrna Melgar said Monday that she plans to call for a hearing to address the issue.

In addition to focusing on the brawls, the hearing will be a discussion on violent incidents among young people at schools, on the streets, on buses and in retail stores, Melgar said.

“Because it’s not just Stonestown,” she said, referring to the two middle school students who were detained after a gun was found at Denman Middle School; a student stabbing at Francisco Middle School;and a 15-year-old who was stabbed by a 12-year-old boy on a Muni bus, all within the last week or so.

“This whole generation came into puberty during the pandemic and we know for a fact that they're behind academically, and also behind socially,” she said. “And some of the kids who are more at risk are suffering more.”

Ali Phillips, a spokesperson for mall owner Brookfield Properties, said that they were “outraged by the unacceptable behavior that occurred at Stonestown Galleria.”

“We are working closely with school, city and law enforcement leadership to address this issue,” said Phillips. “The safety and well-being of our guests and tenants is our top priority and we have zero tolerance for this disruptive behavior.”

Brookfield will direct all further inquiries to the San Francisco Police Department she said.

San Francisco Police Chief Bill Scott described the recent incidents as “very concerning and disturbing” during a virtual public safety meeting on Monday. He said the department will work with the San Francisco Unified School District to intervene.

“We’re working with the superintendent (of SFUSD) and others to see what we can do to work with the school districts to do what we can to turn this around,” Scott said.

Melgar did not know whether the teens involved in last week's violent brawls were arrested, or whether the groups included students from one or several schools. She also said she did not know if the incidents were interrelated or pre-planned.

Laura Dudnick, S.F. Unified spokesperson, said that due to the student confidentiality policy, the district can not confirm whether an incident involves SFUSD students if that incident happens outside of a school day and not at school.

“We know that safety is on a lot of people’s minds both in school and out of school. District policies outline our expectations for student behavior in school,” Dudnick said. “While SFUSD’s jurisdiction is limited to our schools, we always want to be sure we are teaching students to model appropriate behavior and that there will be consequences to their actions."

Melgar said that this past weekend, her 13-year-old daughter wanted to go to Stonestown Galleria, but Melgar felt uneasy.

“I didn't want to let her go by herself, which is something that I would normally do,” she said. “I went with her.”



https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/youth-violence-17850517.php
 
I have seen tons of reports that unlawful behaviour by non adults is spiking, and that the reason is that across the nation DA's are refusing to charge them no matter what they do.
 
I really hate to say this, but can anyone here guess the racial make-up of those involved...?

There are so many angry young white males out there, who watch as DA's refuse to charge non adults no matter what they do, they are increasingly raising Hell. History teaches that angry young males who are not working or otherwise bought into the society are like kerosene to society bonfires.....this is very bad.
 
I really hate to say this, but can anyone here guess the racial make-up of those involved...?

Does it matter? The lockdowns affected people of all races. It's not like white and Asian kids didn't fall behind academically and socially during lockdowns and only black and Hispanic kids did.
 
There are so many angry young white males out there, who watch as DA's refuse to charge non adults no matter what they do, they are increasingly raising Hell. History teaches that angry young males who are not working or otherwise bought into the society are like kerosene to society bonfires.....this is very bad.

Yes. In the past, such men were put to work enmasse to do things like dig ditches with shovels and wheelbarrows, or they went into the military and were killed off in endless petty wars. Today neither is necessary to society and these men aren't either. Women have little or no desire to be with them, the jobs society has can't use them. So, they become variously, incels, hikikomori (severe social shut ins), and the like who are consumed by such time wasters as video games.
 
Does it matter? The lockdowns affected people of all races. It's not like white and Asian kids didn't fall behind academically and socially during lockdowns and only black and Hispanic kids did.

The lockdowns are only one of many reason that young males are angry and often willing to burn America to the ground to make their unhappiness known.
 
Yes. In the past, such men were put to work enmasse to do things like dig ditches with shovels and wheelbarrows, or they went into the military and were killed off in endless petty wars. Today neither is necessary to society and these men aren't either. Women have little or no desire to be with them, the jobs society has can't use them. So, they become variously, incels, hikikomori (severe social shut ins), and the like who are consumed by such time wasters as video games.

The way the feminsts have demonized men and taught women to abuse men is a big part of why we are here.
 
I’ve never made that claim, nor would I, I have absolutely no interest in what you think.

"You dont fool anyone" is the making of a claim that you could not possibly have the information to make, you do not know what all the other people think..you lied....again.
 
It is a good starting place when seeking a solution.

So say they are kids of all races including multiple bi-racial kids. Then what? How does that have anything to do with addressing the learning loss and missed social development of these kids due to the lock downs that helped to drive this behavior?
 
Looks to me like S.F. has gotten to be like N.O. has been for at least three decades.
You're negligent if you go out in public unarmed.
 
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