There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'

[Dutch Uncle]

Typically Paine, Jefferson, Madison, Mason, Revere - the founders of this once magnificent nation.

Liberalism is the support of liberty, the support of individualism, the support of Laissez Faire Capitalism.

The fascist/Marxism of democrats is the polar opposite of "liberal." Collectivist, authoritarian, group think.

You had guys named that Down Under? So did We, the People in America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The right claiming they are for limited government is like they are economically conservative. It is what they say to convince each other, but actions belie it. There is nothing more intrusive than abortion laws in southern states being implemented by Rightys. They have the power to come between a woman and her doctor if they suspect abortion. They can check whether girls are in menstruation. If a claim arrives saying they believe a girl was trying to get an abortion, the police can come down on them. They will enable the police to intervene in a woman's most private rights.
They are interfering in America's election system. Our system works extremely well and is checked after every election. They want to have right-wingers in charge of all of it. That is not to keep it fair and honest, but to make it lean far right. Volunteers at election polls are afraid for their lives. They get terrible abuse from Trumpys. The right wants to be in every part of our lives, except that want corporations to be free from regulation.

Abortion is the only "right" democrats support.

You oppose freedom of religion, speech, the press, and assembly/protest.

Oh, you certainly support democrat Brown Shirt thugs rampagining, but if the opposition protests, you throw them in prison. And yes, you support radical Islam since it hates America as much as you do, but you seek to prohibit any beliefs that challenge the hedgemony of the fascist left - BAKE THE CAKE CHRISTIAN.

We saw you savage investigative journalists from Andy Ngo to James O'Keefe as federal goons attack the opposition press. Then there are the 700 political prisoners who dared protest a stolen election.

democrats seek to revoke the first 14 Amendments to the constitution.

But you LOVE abortion - perhaps you'll make it manditory.

 

[Noking]

And yet it's you, not he, who supports and promotes all of the elements of fascism.

Can you justify in a rational way what you just posted????????????????????????

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And yet it's you, not he, who supports and promotes all of the elements of fascism.

^^^
Not an American.

 

[Noking]

Agreed, but monarchists like underscore are warped. It's why they are so easy to spot when they try to act like Americans. LOL

He's a strange one

 

[Uncensored2008]

This ^ is why you cannot argue with a dishonest moron.

The left on this board is intellectually vacuous. Even as leftists go, the fascists on JPP are dull witted. AProudLefty runs once any discussion goes beyond the most basic level where he can regurgitate mindless talking points. There really is no leftist on this site with the ability to argue a position. Just a bunch of mindless drones vomiting out idiocy from the fascist hate sites like KOS, Huffington, and CNN. The entire bunch seem bereft of even rudimentary intelligence

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Since the far right favors individual liberty and limited government, the minimum value logically belongs on the right side of the political spectrum. And since the left favors collective rights and virtually unlimited government power and control (which is an understatement), the maximum value logically belongs to the left.

One side favors individual rights and freedoms, starting with anarchism, and liberalism (in moving from right to left). The other (the Left) favors collective "rights" and "freedom," possessed only by groups of people nonexistent for the individual. These are the leftist ideologies of totalitarianism, communism, fascism, and socialism.

These basic facts don't look good for the far left, so they have to constantly work to confuse the issue. This is why the co-opted deceptive words like "liberal" and "progressive: because the people won't support them if they knew the truth.

In the Federalist, Eleanor Bartow made the case that we should not call the "left-liberal-progressives" liberals any longer, but we should call them leftists for "They are Intolerant, Divisive, and Anti-Liberty. She makes the point that authoritarians of the far-left are only trying to confuse the issue with their false "liberal" label.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/03/stop_conflating_leftists_with_liberals.html


As I've mentioned many times before on these forums, 'Classical Liberalism' is the exact opposite of today's left wing version of that 'liberal' term. There's nothing liberating about being a leftist. Absolutely NOTHING, and thus, my anti leftist liberalism moniker is a great sign for those who want to know the truth about the sad state of affairs that the leftist political party is doing to we freedom loving Americans and to America itself.

Humanity is simply one of many animal species. albeit a fairly advanced one.

Evolution didn't create the human being as a lone hunter.
Lone hunter species exist, but humans evolved as a social animal.

Humans who can't exist as social animals are genetically deficient
and unsuited to be involved in any decision-making process that involves the comprehensive community.

Further, they usually lack the intellectual capacity to recognize their own deficiency.
In extreme instances, they must be culled from the herd for the general good.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Talk about being off the wall.

The left here is astoundingly dull of wit.

My post was precisely on topic and on point, despite your inability to grasp it.

Standard Disclaimer: If you want to be viewed as anything other than a Nazi thug attempting to silence opposition voices, articulate WHAT you think American Thinker got wrong.

But you can't - ad hominen attacks are the extent of your intellectual capacity.

You are literally Douche Duck level stupid.

 

[Noking]

The left here is astoundingly dull of wit.

My post was precisely on topic and on point, despite your inability to grasp it.

Standard Disclaimer: If you want to be viewed as anything other than a Nazi thug attempting to silence opposition voices, articulate WHAT you think American Thinker got wrong.

But you can't - ad hominen attacks are the extent of your intellectual capacity.

You are literally Douche Duck level stupid.

You must be a comedian.

 

[Uncensored2008]

yeah, yeah, Democrats love Stalin....

True, but not relevant to the discussion.

Classical Liberalism typically refers to the collective writings of the founding fathers of the USA.

I agree that Joseph Stalin, along with Mao Tse Tung (and Pol Pot) are darlings of the American democrats, but he came hundreds of years after the significant movement of liberalism.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Humanity is simply one of many animal species. albeit a fairly advanced one.

Evolution didn't create the human being as a lone hunter.
Lone hunter species exist, but humans evolved as a social animal.

Humans who can't exist as social animals are genetically deficient
and unsuited to be involved in any decision-making process that involves the comprehensive community.

Further, they usually lack the intellectual capacity to recognize their own deficiency.
In extreme instances, they must be culled from the herd for the general good.

I don't see a single ad hominem attack in this post.
Don't get me wrong.
I do enjoy making them.
In the above post, however, there isn't even one.

 

[BidenPresident]

True, but not relevant to the discussion.

Classical Liberalism typically refers to the collective writings of the founding fathers of the USA.

I agree that Joseph Stalin, along with Mao Tse Tung (and Pol Pot) are darlings of the American democrats, but he came hundreds of years after the significant movement of liberalism.

So you're a libertarian. Next topic.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He's a strange one

Agreed. The wannabe Americans are usually pretty fucked up.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The left here is astoundingly dull of wit.

My post was precisely on topic and on point, despite your inability to grasp it.

Standard Disclaimer: If you want to be viewed as anything other than a Nazi thug attempting to silence opposition voices, articulate WHAT you think American Thinker got wrong.

But you can't - ad hominen attacks are the extent of your intellectual capacity.

You are literally Douche Duck level stupid.

It's 'Murica, mate, not Sydney or the Outback. The US has over 330M citizens, Australia less than 26M. Texas alone has 29M. Australia is about the size of the lower 48 with a population comparable to the US during the Civil War. No wonder you poor bastards are so lonely.

Your jealousy of me is fascinating, underscore.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Agreed. The wannabe Americans are usually pretty fucked up.

Yup. The indigenous Americans will certainly agree with that.
Which tribe are you from, Oom,?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Can you justify in a rational way what you just posted????????????????????????

Certainly.

Nothing Yakuda posts attacks the rights of individuals - nearly everything you post does. Nothing he posts promotes collectivism - nearly everything you post does.

Let's test that.

Yes or no?

Reparations should be paid for the suffering those with black skin endured by white Americans.
Certain words must be outlawed to protect the feelings of disparaged groups.
Christians who oppose transgender biological males in womens sports should face legal consequences.
A Christian baker must be compelled by law to bake cakes for homosexual weddings.
Releasing video that contradicts the finding of the J6 commission engagers democracy and must be prohibited.
Questioning the efficacy of the Covid vaccine must be a criminal offense as it endangers lives.
Questioning election results by Republicans endangers democracy and must be dealt with harshly, with long prison sentences. (Stacy Abrams excepted)

 

[Uncensored2008]

He's a strange one

While you converse with a moron who thinks I am a "monarchist?"

BWAHAHAHAHA

You fascists are a hive, you attack en masse - but does it ever dawn on you that the pathological liar you linked up with is not actually dealing in reality?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yup. The indigenous Americans will certainly agree with that.
Which tribe are you from, Oom,?

The 'Merican one, neef. Unlike you, I'm not a hyphenated American; I'm 100% American.

 

[Noking]

Certainly.

Nothing Yakuda posts attacks the rights of individuals - nearly everything you post does. Nothing he posts promotes collectivism - nearly everything you post does.

Let's test that.

Yes or no?

Reparations should be paid for the suffering those with black skin endured by white Americans.
Certain words must be outlawed to protect the feelings of disparaged groups.
Christians who oppose transgender biological males in womens sports should face legal consequences.
A Christian baker must be compelled by law to bake cakes for homosexual weddings.
Releasing video that contradicts the finding of the J6 commission engagers democracy and must be prohibited.
Questioning the efficacy of the Covid vaccine must be a criminal offense as it endangers lives.
Questioning election results by Republicans endangers democracy and must be dealt with harshly, with long prison sentences. (Stacy Abrams excepted)

So the crude insults that Yakuda calls others is not attacking others.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So the crude insults that Yakuda calls others is not attacking others.

Only according to down under dumbasses like Underscore.