There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'

BidenPresident said:
I have never seen a modern liberal argue that.
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Actions speak louder than words.

Are you for universal government run health care?
Do you favor a government run retirement program that forces participation?
I know you regularly not only disparage conservative news, articles, sources, but often argue they should be made illegal or shut down.

That is, in part modern liberalism.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That classic liberalism is rooted in individual rights, freedoms, and a free market. That government is derived from consent of the governed, not by fiat.

Modern liberalism is the opposite arguing that society as a whole defines rights and government should control the market as part of that society.
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So GOP? I agree.
 
BidenPresident said:
I have never seen a modern liberal argue that.
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Then you can't or won't pay attention. You think there is a leftist that actually believes our rights come from the creator as stated in the D of I. Ive had leftists tell me the D of I is irrelevant and that govt provides rights. Obama bailed out banks back in the day. That's govt deciding which businesses succeed and which fail.
 
AProudLefty said:
You immediately accused him of being a fascist. Basic Fascism 101.
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Where did I do that? Here's the quote you used

"Right after you define "fascism" or "fascists" without trying to pass off an "example" as a definition. Bet we never hear from you again. God willing."

Where is the accusation that you're a fascist?


So you accuse me of being a racist therefore you're a racist?
 
Yakuda said:
Where did I do that? Here's the quote you used

"Right after you define "fascism" or "fascists" without trying to pass off an "example" as a definition. Bet we never hear from you again. God willing."

Where is the accusation that you're a fascist?


So you accuse me of being a racist therefore you're a racist?
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Okay dumbass why did you bring up fascism which has nothing to do with the topic? Why ask him?
 
AProudLefty said:
Okay dumbass why did you bring up fascism which has nothing to do with the topic? Why ask him?
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Because just like you've proven here you retards toss labels and haven't got the first clue what the fuck any of them mean. Or is it your assertion that asking a question is "fascist"?
 
BidenPresident said:
John Locke:

96. For, when any number of men have, by the consent of every
individual, made a community, they have thereby made that community
one body, with a power to act as one body, which is only by the will and
determination of the majority.

https://www.yorku.ca/comninel/courses/3025pdf/Locke.pdf
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WTF does that have to do with anything we're discussing? You take a quote out of context and try to make it central to your arguement. A democratic vote on something doesn't mean that government is handed the right to rule by fiat. It doesn't eradicate individual rights.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
WTF does that have to do with anything we're discussing? You take a quote out of context and try to make it central to your arguement. A democratic vote on something doesn't mean that government is handed the right to rule by fiat. It doesn't eradicate individual rights.
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you're a dope
 
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