The President Bows . . .

if you don't know that the depth of a bow means anything...espcially your ignorance as to only mentioning japan....you can keep quiet on this subject....

as to that deep of a bow to the japanese...do you have any other president doing so? it shows obama is either an idiot, or he really debases himself to foreign powers....
The concept you forward is what is Idiotic, not Obama.
You obviously know nothing of protocol or anything about Japan. The Emperor is afforded the lowest of bows not by choice but because of etiquette and the tradition of the country, to do otherwise would be considered a slight to the host country. The Japanese as a people disdain arrogance such as that of those you admire, thus the tradition of bowing is still part of their culture. The higher the status of the individual, the lower the bow, thus the bow to the Emeror is the lowest. Your whole premise is stupid, but since you buy so totally into the Hannity, Limbaugh stupidity, there is little hope of you understanding.
The fealty of a certain level of Americans to the concept of American exceptionalism is what truly borders on the idiotic.



PS: In the Army I was stationed in Tokyo, part of the time in the Meiji Building, across from the Palace grounds. One of the first things we learned in order to maintain good relations with the Japanese, was the etiquette of the country. I have a great deal of respect for Obama having observed that etiquette as opposed to what the dim cowboy preceeding him might have done.
 
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Bush kissed him on the lips and held hands with him you tards.

Where was all your outrage then.

Oh BTW Obama is pretty tall and would have to bow lower to put his head below the level of the Japanese leader you petty snot bags.
 
Oh yeah ,how does all this square with him being some big arrogant black man on your other personality?
 
Bush kissed him on the lips and held hands with him you tards.

Where was all your outrage then.

Oh BTW Obama is pretty tall and would have to bow lower to put his head below the level of the Japanese leader you petty snot bags.

How about bush walking down the lane hand-in-hand with an Arab sheikh. Where were the anti-gay Conservatives then? Hypocrites!!!


Sorry, you already said it. Still so true.
 
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The code of etiquette in Japan governs the expectations of social behavior in the country and is considered very important.

Bowing (o)jigi (お辞儀, おじぎ), (o-)rei (お礼), is probably the feature of Japanese etiquette that is best-known outside Japan. Bowing is considered extremely important in Japan, so much so that, although children normally begin learning how to bow from a very young age, companies commonly provide training to their employees in how to execute bows correctly.

Basic bows are performed with the back straight and the hands at the sides (boys and men) or clasped in the lap (girls and women), and with the eyes down. Bows originate at the waist. Generally, the longer and deeper the bow, the stronger the emotion and the respect expressed.

Bows can be generally divided into three main types: informal, formal, and very formal. Informal bows are made at about a fifteen degree angle or just tilt over one's head to the front, and more formal bows at about thirty degrees. Very formal bows are deeper.

The etiquette surrounding bowing, including the length and depth of bow, and the appropriate response, is exceedingly complex. For example, if the other person maintains his or her bow for longer than expected (generally about two or three seconds), it is polite to bow again, upon which one may receive another bow in return. This often leads to a long exchange of progressively lighter bows.

Generally speaking, an inferior bows longer, more deeply and more frequently than a superior. A superior addressing an inferior will generally only nod the head slightly, while some superiors may not bow at all and an inferior will bend forward slightly from the waist.

Bows of apology tend to be deeper and last longer than other types of bow. They tend to occur with frequency during the apology, generally at about 45 degrees with the head lowered and lasting for at least the count of three, sometimes longer. The depth, frequency and duration of the bow increases with the sincerity of the apology and the severity of the offence.

Occasionally, in the case of apology and begging, people crouch down like Sujud to show one's absolute submission or extreme regret. This is called Dogeza. Even though Dogeza was previously considered very formal, it is mostly regarded as a contempt for oneself today, so it is not used in an everyday setting. Bows of thanks follow the same pattern. In extreme cases a kneeling bow is performed; this bow is sometimes so deep that the forehead touches the floor. This is called saikeirei (最敬礼), literally "most respectful bow."

When dealing with non-Japanese people, many Japanese will shake hands. Since many non-Japanese are familiar with the custom of bowing, this often leads to a combined bow and handshake which can be quite complicated to execute. Bows may be combined with handshakes or performed before or after shaking hands. Generally when bowing in close proximity, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side (usually the left) to avoid bumping heads.

Amen, and worth bumping for the brain dead to see once again.
 
This is way the party is in so much trouble.

They dont think logically but out of pure emotion. Bush and team could whip them into a frenzy at a momments notice with fear and false partiotism (support the troops and vote against care for vets). These are the kind of voters that are easy for the fringe nutbags like Palin or Dobbs to steal right from out under any attempts the R party makes to court any rational voters back from the Indy party.

The party is going to be split in two by the likes of palin and dobbs.

Like I have been saying for years now , they cant win with them or without them.

The only hope the R party has of long term survival is to dump the Palin/Rush/Beck/Dobbs people and to start courting the moderate R back from the Indy party. They wont hold many offices for years to come but they will be able to build their party back.

The Palin/Rush/Beck/Dobbs block will never hold more than a very few seats.
 
This is way the party is in so much trouble.

They dont think logically but out of pure emotion. Bush and team could whip them into a frenzy at a momments notice with fear and false partiotism (support the troops and vote against care for vets). These are the kind of voters that are easy for the fringe nutbags like Palin or Dobbs to steal right from out under any attempts the R party makes to court any rational voters back from the Indy party.

The party is going to be split in two by the likes of palin and dobbs.

Like I have been saying for years now , they cant win with them or without them.

The only hope the R party has of long term survival is to dump the Palin/Rush/Beck/Dobbs people and to start courting the moderate R back from the Indy party. They wont hold many offices for years to come but they will be able to build their party back.

The Palin/Rush/Beck/Dobbs block will never hold more than a very few seats.

The "only hope" will never happen, their 6th grade BBD&O level has been reached and they will not let go.
 
Of course not you twat. But there is a picture of the Jap shaking hands with Obama, which is an equally unnatural act.
You wouldn't understand it, but that is how one conducts foreign relations. Each side walks, sometimes very slowly, towards the other. Each one pays the other respect and that is what the picture shows.
For someone like you who is totally ignorant of anything outside the US and totally unaware of concepts such as respect for ones fellow humans. it must seem strange.
Tough shit. Get used to having a president who is going to make your nation better.
Typed while the Chinese masters were meeting with your president in Singapore.


So the article stating that Japanese do shake hands, was a fabrication.

I see you're really working for that extra portion of rice, today.
 
good gawd can't they hire someone to teach the Community organizer on the protocols of being a United States President..

what an embarrassment and disgrace he's been to the office and us..:palm:
 
for you lefties.....once again....and i will bold it for you (instructional overall though)....since you won't believe me.....a so called rightie

If you read the article carefully, it's clear it refers to the code of etiquette by the Japanese for the Japanese. We don't use the bow in our daily contact with others. The article details the the customs of Japan, with a short paragraph at the end on how to greet Americans.

When dealing with non-Japanese people, many Japanese will shake hands. Since many non-Japanese are familiar with the custom of bowing, this often leads to a combined bow and handshake which can be quite complicated to execute. Bows may be combined with handshakes or performed before or after shaking hands. Generally when bowing in close proximity, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side (usually the left) to avoid bumping heads

Don't you think the chief of Protocol drilled Obama on his actions? It's just laughable to look at the greeting as a slap in the face to America. Get the chips off your shoulders, righties.
 
If you read the article carefully, it's clear it refers to the code of etiquette by the Japanese for the Japanese. We don't use the bow in our daily contact with others. The article details the the customs of Japan, with a short paragraph at the end on how to greet Americans.

When dealing with non-Japanese people, many Japanese will shake hands. Since many non-Japanese are familiar with the custom of bowing, this often leads to a combined bow and handshake which can be quite complicated to execute. Bows may be combined with handshakes or performed before or after shaking hands. Generally when bowing in close proximity, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side (usually the left) to avoid bumping heads

Don't you think the chief of Protocol drilled Obama on his actions? It's just laughable to look at the greeting as a slap in the face to America. Get the chips off your shoulders, righties.

you read it wrong...that is for non-japanese who are confused about the bow process, it does not at all say a non-japanese cannot bow

obama bowed lower....tell me, what does that signify to the japanese?
 
They're not equal to the Japanese among themselves.

Maybe you guys should cite the U.S. chief of protocol's blue book, if you want to make a real case out of this.

link that says a non japanese cannot partake in the bow process...

i have never heard this

we all know that a US president does not bow to any foreign leader, that is the protocol...
 
link that says a non japanese cannot partake in the bow process...

i have never heard this

we all know that a US president does not bow to any foreign leader, that is the protocol...


And we come full circle.

Maybe you missed the original post. Go check it out and get back to me.
 
Oh, I see. It's a depth issue. Not a fact-that-he's-bowing issue. I guess if you only bow *this* much it doesn't really count as a bow but if you bow as much as Obama bowed then you're pretty much ceding American sovereignty to Japanese royalty or some such. Is that the gist of it?

FYI... the depth of the bow DOES indicate different levels of respect and/or subservience.
 
wow spurt is the dumbest wussiest muther fucker in the history of man. Next to southerncoward that is.
 
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