No, the Fukushima water release is not going to kill the Pacific Ocean

serendipity

Verified User
.
I'm with the Mott, the level of scientific ignorance is truly astonishing in the media. Of course you don't have to go that far to encounter morons like McMoonshi'ite. Tritium is actually very valuable costing around $30,000 per gram.

Japanese authorities are preparing to release treated radioactive wastewater into the Pacific Ocean, nearly 12 years after the Fukushima nuclear disaster. This will relieve pressure on more than 1,000 storage tanks, creating much-needed space for other vital remediation works. But the plan has attracted controversy.

At first glance, releasing radioactive water into the ocean does sound like a terrible idea. Greenpeace feared the radioactivity released might change human DNA, China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific. One academic publication claimed the total global social welfare cost could exceed US$200 billion.

But the Japanese government, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and independent scientists have declared the planned release to be reasonable and safe.

Based on our collective professional experience in nuclear science and nuclear power, we have reached the same conclusion. Our assessment is based on the type of radioactivity to be released, the amount of radioactivity already present in the ocean, and the high level of independent oversight from the IAEA.

How much water is there, and what’s in it?

The storage tanks at Fukushima contain 1.3 million tonnes of water, equivalent to around 500 Olympic-sized swimming pools.

In the case of tritium, natural processes in the atmosphere generate 50-70 peta-becquerels (PBq) of tritium every year. This number is difficult to grasp, so it’s helpful to think of it as grams of pure tritium. Using the conversion factor of 1PBq = 2.79g, we see that 150-200g of tritium is created naturally each year.

Looking at the Pacific Ocean, around 8.4kg (3,000PBq) of tritium is already in the water. By comparison, the total amount of tritium in the Fukushima wastewater is vastly smaller, at around 3g (1PBq).

Japanese authorities are not planning to release the water all at once. Instead, just 0.06g (22TBq) of tritium is scheduled for release each year. Compared with the radioactivity already present in the Pacific, the planned annual release is a literal drop in the ocean.

The current levels of tritium radioactivity in the Pacific are not of concern, and so the small amount to be added by the Fukushima water won’t cause any harm.

What’s more, tritium only makes a tiny contribution to the total radioactivity of the oceans. Ocean radioactivity is mostly due to potassium, an element essential for life and present in all cells. In the Pacific Ocean there is 7.4 million PBq of radioactivity from potassium, more than 1,000 times greater than the amount due to tritium.

How do other countries manage the discharge of tritium?

All nuclear power plants produce some tritium, which is routinely discharged into the ocean and other waterways. The amount generated depends on the type of reactor.

Boiling water reactors, such as at Fukushima, produce relatively low quantities. When Fukushima was operating, the tritium discharge limit was set at 22TBq per year. That figure is far below a level that could cause harm, but is reasonably achievable for this type of power plant.

In contrast, the UK Heysham nuclear power plant has a limit of 1300TBq per year because this type of gas-cooled reactor produces a lot of tritium. Heysham has been discharging tritium for 40 years without harm to people or the environment.

Annual tritium discharge at nearby nuclear power plants far exceeds what is proposed for Fukushima. The Fuqing plant in China discharged 52TBq in 2020, while the Kori plant in South Korea discharged 50TBq in 2018.

Each of these power plants releases more than twice the amount to be released from Fukushima.

Are there other reasons for not releasing the water?
Objections to the planned release have been the subject of widespread media coverage. TIME magazine recently explained how Pacific Island nations have been grappling for decades with the legacy of Cold War nuclear testing. The Guardian ran an opinion piece from Pacific activists, who argued if the waste was safe, then “dump it in Tokyo, test it in Paris, and store it in Washington, but keep our Pacific nuclear-free”.

But the Pacific has always contained radioactivity, from potassium in particular. The extra radioactivity to be added from the Fukushima water will make the most miniscule of differences.

https://theconversation.com/no-the-...is-not-going-to-kill-the-pacific-ocean-200902
 
I ain't eatin' no green-glowing Tunafish!

SORRY CHARLIE!

glowing-gm-fish.jpg
 
The massive lies about the Fukushima accident spread by the radical Left, particularly the radical environmentalist Left are numerous and pervasive. They are also obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention.
 
just to be safe, they should release it just off the Chinese coastline so it kills anything leaking out of the Wuhan lab......
 
The massive lies about the Fukushima accident spread by the radical Left, particularly the radical environmentalist Left are numerous and pervasive. They are also obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention.

The bastards do it all the time and they know perfectly well that it's all lies. Greenpeace is one of the wiorst offenders, they know their supporters are mostly morons and rely on them for money.
 
Some of the worst offenders with regards to Fukushima:

maxresdefault-steve-hart-1536x864.jpg


This unrelated chemical storage fire is often portrayed as the Fukushima plant.

TE3KTGPBKT63SVA3DP25CR62JY.jpg


The New York Daily News portrayed this as part of the Fukushima plant radiation spread. Completely unrelated to Fukushima and just a random picture of the tsunami damage.

fallout.jpg


This one was disowned by the original Australian source as being a complete lie. But you still see it regularly used as fact by the radical Left.

fukushima.jpg


The source that one is from claims "The Pacific Ocean is now dead!" from Fukushima radiation. Another complete lie on their part, but it's still up with no retractions.

Or photoshopped nonsense like these:

Screen-Shot-2020-02-03-at-4.04.32-AM-569x381.jpg


Fukushima.jpg


R.3b3c71340624c2ea09ad4cb8ca6838ae
 
.
I'm with the Mott, the level of scientific ignorance is truly astonishing in the media. Of course you don't have to go that far to encounter morons like McMoonshi'ite. Tritium is actually very valuable costing around $30,000 per gram.

Japanese authorities are preparing to release treated radioactive wastewater into the Pacific Ocean, nearly 12 years after the Fukushima nuclear disaster. This will relieve pressure on more than 1,000 storage tanks, creating much-needed space for other vital remediation works. But the plan has attracted controversy.

At first glance, releasing radioactive water into the ocean does sound like a terrible idea. Greenpeace feared the radioactivity released might change human DNA, China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific. One academic publication claimed the total global social welfare cost could exceed US$200 billion.

But the Japanese government, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and independent scientists have declared the planned release to be reasonable and safe.

Based on our collective professional experience in nuclear science and nuclear power, we have reached the same conclusion. Our assessment is based on the type of radioactivity to be released, the amount of radioactivity already present in the ocean, and the high level of independent oversight from the IAEA.

How much water is there, and what’s in it?

The storage tanks at Fukushima contain 1.3 million tonnes of water, equivalent to around 500 Olympic-sized swimming pools.

In the case of tritium, natural processes in the atmosphere generate 50-70 peta-becquerels (PBq) of tritium every year. This number is difficult to grasp, so it’s helpful to think of it as grams of pure tritium. Using the conversion factor of 1PBq = 2.79g, we see that 150-200g of tritium is created naturally each year.

Looking at the Pacific Ocean, around 8.4kg (3,000PBq) of tritium is already in the water. By comparison, the total amount of tritium in the Fukushima wastewater is vastly smaller, at around 3g (1PBq).

Japanese authorities are not planning to release the water all at once. Instead, just 0.06g (22TBq) of tritium is scheduled for release each year. Compared with the radioactivity already present in the Pacific, the planned annual release is a literal drop in the ocean.

The current levels of tritium radioactivity in the Pacific are not of concern, and so the small amount to be added by the Fukushima water won’t cause any harm.

What’s more, tritium only makes a tiny contribution to the total radioactivity of the oceans. Ocean radioactivity is mostly due to potassium, an element essential for life and present in all cells. In the Pacific Ocean there is 7.4 million PBq of radioactivity from potassium, more than 1,000 times greater than the amount due to tritium.

How do other countries manage the discharge of tritium?

All nuclear power plants produce some tritium, which is routinely discharged into the ocean and other waterways. The amount generated depends on the type of reactor.

Boiling water reactors, such as at Fukushima, produce relatively low quantities. When Fukushima was operating, the tritium discharge limit was set at 22TBq per year. That figure is far below a level that could cause harm, but is reasonably achievable for this type of power plant.

In contrast, the UK Heysham nuclear power plant has a limit of 1300TBq per year because this type of gas-cooled reactor produces a lot of tritium. Heysham has been discharging tritium for 40 years without harm to people or the environment.

Annual tritium discharge at nearby nuclear power plants far exceeds what is proposed for Fukushima. The Fuqing plant in China discharged 52TBq in 2020, while the Kori plant in South Korea discharged 50TBq in 2018.

Each of these power plants releases more than twice the amount to be released from Fukushima.

Are there other reasons for not releasing the water?
Objections to the planned release have been the subject of widespread media coverage. TIME magazine recently explained how Pacific Island nations have been grappling for decades with the legacy of Cold War nuclear testing. The Guardian ran an opinion piece from Pacific activists, who argued if the waste was safe, then “dump it in Tokyo, test it in Paris, and store it in Washington, but keep our Pacific nuclear-free”.

But the Pacific has always contained radioactivity, from potassium in particular. The extra radioactivity to be added from the Fukushima water will make the most miniscule of differences.

https://theconversation.com/no-the-...is-not-going-to-kill-the-pacific-ocean-200902

Why wouldn't they be worried? Especially the fishermen and the fishing businesses.
 
Why wouldn't they be worried? Especially the fishermen and the fishing businesses.

Imagine this. While it's not a perfect analogy, it's close enough to give you the idea.

You have an eyedropper half full of radioactive water. It isn't like glow in the dark radioactive, but mildly so. You squirt the contents into an olympic sized swimming pool. A day later, hell an hour later, nobody can tell or show you the difference.
 
Why wouldn't they be worried? Especially the fishermen and the fishing businesses.

You truly do surprise me, I thought you were more scientifically literate. From the article.

Based on our collective professional experience in nuclear science and nuclear power, we have reached the same conclusion. Our assessment is based on the type of radioactivity to be released, the amount of radioactivity already present in the ocean, and the high level of independent oversight from the IAEA.

How much water is there, and what’s in it?

The storage tanks at Fukushima contain 1.3 million tonnes of water, equivalent to around 500 Olympic-sized swimming pools.

In the case of tritium, natural processes in the atmosphere generate 50-70 peta-becquerels (PBq) of tritium every year. This number is difficult to grasp, so it’s helpful to think of it as grams of pure tritium. Using the conversion factor of 1PBq = 2.79g, we see that 150-200g of tritium is created naturally each year.

Looking at the Pacific Ocean, around 8.4kg (3,000PBq) of tritium is already in the water. By comparison, the total amount of tritium in the Fukushima wastewater is vastly smaller, at around 3g (1PBq).

Japanese authorities are not planning to release the water all at once. Instead, just 0.06g (22TBq) of tritium is scheduled for release each year. Compared with the radioactivity already present in the Pacific, the planned annual release is a literal drop in the ocean.

The current levels of tritium radioactivity in the Pacific are not of concern, and so the small amount to be added by the Fukushima water won’t cause any harm.

What’s more, tritium only makes a tiny contribution to the total radioactivity of the oceans. Ocean radioactivity is mostly due to potassium, an element essential for life and present in all cells. In the Pacific Ocean there is 7.4 million PBq of radioactivity from potassium, more than 1,000 times greater than the amount due to tritium.

How do other countries manage the discharge of tritium?

All nuclear power plants produce some tritium, which is routinely discharged into the ocean and other waterways. The amount generated depends on the type of reactor.

Boiling water reactors, such as at Fukushima, produce relatively low quantities. When Fukushima was operating, the tritium discharge limit was set at 22TBq per year. That figure is far below a level that could cause harm, but is reasonably achievable for this type of power plant.
 
Imagine this. While it's not a perfect analogy, it's close enough to give you the idea.

You have an eyedropper half full of radioactive water. It isn't like glow in the dark radioactive, but mildly so. You squirt the contents into an olympic sized swimming pool. A day later, hell an hour later, nobody can tell or show you the difference.

It is not the point.

The point is some people are rightfully worried.

That's all there is to my point.
 
You truly do surprise me, I thought you were more scientifically literate. From the article.

Again, it is not the point.

"China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific."

Are you saying that they are scientifically illiterate?

It seems that you are mocking them for being worried.
 
It is not the point.

The point is some people are rightfully worried.

That's all there is to my point.

My point is they shouldn't be but are because there are many out there that lie about everything and anything nuclear. I'd say that 95% of the public has no idea how radiation works, what it is, and its real dangers. Instead, they only know it's dangerous and are fed a steady diet of lies about it and everything nuclear by people with little understanding of things nuclear themselves.
 
My point is they shouldn't be but are because there are many out there that lie about everything and anything nuclear. I'd say that 95% of the public has no idea how radiation works, what it is, and its real dangers. Instead, they only know it's dangerous and are fed a steady diet of lies about it and everything nuclear by people with little understanding of things nuclear themselves.

Lie for what purpose? And who are lying?
 
Lie for what purpose? And who are lying?

These groups hate and despise all things nuclear. They fear it because they themselves don't understand it. Their knowledge of nuclear power and radiation come from things like movies, like The China Syndrome.

The outright liars want to do away with everything nuclear simply because it is nuclear. It is completely irrational and often downright insane. You should confront some of these 'tards. I have. They get physically violent in some cases. Of course, that's not much of a threat...
 
Again, it is not the point.

"China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific."

Are you saying that they are scientifically illiterate?

It seems that you are mocking them for being worried.

Give me a break that's all about politics, bugger all to do with science.
 
These groups hate and despise all things nuclear. They fear it because they themselves don't understand it. Their knowledge of nuclear power and radiation come from things like movies, like The China Syndrome.

The outright liars want to do away with everything nuclear simply because it is nuclear. It is completely irrational and often downright insane. You should confront some of these 'tards. I have. They get physically violent in some cases. Of course, that's not much of a threat...

Who are those groups? Those people who protest the nuclear plants?

"Greenpeace feared the radioactivity released might change human DNA, China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific."

Are you actually telling me that they have no nuclear experts?
 
Again, it is not the point.

"China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific."

Are you saying that they are scientifically illiterate?

It seems that you are mocking them for being worried.

Yes...
 
Who are those groups? Those people who protest the nuclear plants?

"Greenpeace feared the radioactivity released might change human DNA, China and South Korea expressed disquiet, while Pacific Island nations were concerned about further nuclear contamination of the Blue Pacific."

Are you actually telling me that they have no nuclear experts?

Yes.
 
Back
Top