Can Fox regain any credibility?

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BartenderElite

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Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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CNN never did.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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FOX was always a right wing propaganda show.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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They will always have credibility with their right wing base. Truth and facts are the enemy of the white Christian right.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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They never lost any creditably with their viewers.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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My question to you is is MSNBC any different? I don't say that as a deflection or a defense of Fox but when I hear people complain about Fox then never say a word about MSNBC it just comes off as pure partisanship, not principle.

To each his own of course, I just choose not to watch either channel. Doesn't make me better than anyone else it's just a personal choice. So even though I'm on the right politically I feel no need to defend Fox News. And when I see people argue Cable New Channels have helped drive the divide and helped poison discourse in this country I totally agree. But a lot of people can't or won't acknowledge that because it means they (and their side) are contributing to it. It's much more fun and enjoyable to simply blame the 'other side'.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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YOU don't get to decide 'credibility', dumbass. Omniscience fallacy.
 
cawacko said:
My question to you is is MSNBC any different? I don't say that as a deflection or a defense of Fox but when I hear people complain about Fox then never say a word about MSNBC it just comes off as pure partisanship, not principle.

To each his own of course, I just choose not to watch either channel. Doesn't make me better than anyone else it's just a personal choice. So even though I'm on the right politically I feel no need to defend Fox News. And when I see people argue Cable New Channels have helped drive the divide and helped poison discourse in this country I totally agree. But a lot of people can't or won't acknowledge that because it means they (and their side) are contributing to it. It's much more fun and enjoyable to simply blame the 'other side'.
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You're making the mistake here of thinking that I'm talking about bias. MSNBC and CNN are both biased, as Fox is, and have been for many years.

Fox took it a step further, judging by the revelations of the past few weeks. They pushed a huge lie, which damaged American election integrity, even though they KNEW it was a lie. Tucker Carlson reportedly tried to have a staffer fired because she wanted to fact-check the claims.

It's a different level. Nothing CNN or MSNBC do compares.
 
cawacko said:
My question to you is is MSNBC any different? I don't say that as a deflection or a defense of Fox but when I hear people complain about Fox then never say a word about MSNBC it just comes off as pure partisanship, not principle.

To each his own of course, I just choose not to watch either channel. Doesn't make me better than anyone else it's just a personal choice. So even though I'm on the right politically I feel no need to defend Fox News. And when I see people argue Cable New Channels have helped drive the divide and helped poison discourse in this country I totally agree. But a lot of people can't or won't acknowledge that because it means they (and their side) are contributing to it. It's much more fun and enjoyable to simply blame the 'other side'.
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the only reason to watch either msnbc or fox is to see what the mouth breathers are thinking
 
BartenderElite said:
You're making the mistake here of thinking that I'm talking about bias. MSNBC and CNN are both biased, as Fox is, and have been for many years.

Fox took it a step further, judging by the revelations of the past few weeks. They pushed a huge lie, which damaged American election integrity, even though they KNEW it was a lie. Tucker Carlson reportedly tried to have a staffer fired because she wanted to fact-check the claims.

It's a different level. Nothing CNN or MSNBC do compares.
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CNN and MSNBC are in their own class of weirdness and Fake News. You are right. Nothing really compares to either of them. Only the Associated Press comes close.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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I cannot stipulate to the assertation that Fox ever had any credibility with people of adequate mental competency.
Actually, I very much believe that it never has.
 
BartenderElite said:
Everything we knew about them has now been exposed. They're a campaign arm for the RNC, chose ratings over truth and spent years pushing propaganda for Trump because they were so afraid of him.

As of today, I don't really understand how anyone can trust anything that they hear on that network.

I think they can make it back - but they need new faces. I'm not even sure why some of their personalities are still on the air.

Thoughts?
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Fox loyalists don't care about truth. They get what they want to hear from the lying heads. I expect the viewership is going to decline some, depending on the verdict. Unfortunately I think there's still too many low-info idiots who will turn it on and keep it afloat.
 
BartenderElite said:
You're making the mistake here of thinking that I'm talking about bias. MSNBC and CNN are both biased, as Fox is, and have been for many years.

Fox took it a step further, judging by the revelations of the past few weeks. They pushed a huge lie, which damaged American election integrity, even though they KNEW it was a lie. Tucker Carlson reportedly tried to have a staffer fired because she wanted to fact-check the claims.

It's a different level. Nothing CNN or MSNBC do compares.
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Well said, thank you. You are exactly right. Bias is one thing; we've all known Fox is biased, same with other media. The 2000 election was more contested than 2020's vote, but did we see any media pushing the myth that Gore really won?
 
To rightys, Fox did not lose any credibility, so there is none to get back. The rest of the world never gave Fox any. We knew what they were doing. Murdoch said in court before that he should not be judged as a political channel. They are entertainment and compete with ESPN.
You guys are unable to see what they are.
 
BartenderElite said:
You're making the mistake here of thinking that I'm talking about bias. MSNBC and CNN are both biased, as Fox is, and have been for many years.

Fox took it a step further, judging by the revelations of the past few weeks. They pushed a huge lie, which damaged American election integrity, even though they KNEW it was a lie. Tucker Carlson reportedly tried to have a staffer fired because she wanted to fact-check the claims.

It's a different level. Nothing CNN or MSNBC do compares.
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Oh, and NBC and CNN did not push huge lies during the Trump years, give me a fucking break. this is more of that don't so as we do, do as we say bullshit LMAO
 
Nordberg said:
To rightys, Fox did not lose any credibility, so there is none to get back. The rest of the world never gave Fox any. We knew what they were doing. Murdoch said in court before that he should not be judged as a political channel. They are entertainment and compete with ESPN.
You guys are unable to see what they are.
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CNN and MSNBC are both licensed as entertainment.
 
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