Independent Study: Air in East Palestine IS Toxic

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ine-toxic-researchers-despite-EPA-ruling.html

Air in East Palestine IS toxic: Scientists release shock report showing 'higher than normal' concentrations of NINE potentially harmful chemicals - despite EPA ruling train derailment danger zone was 'safe'

The air in East Palestine contains 'higher than normal' concentrations of nine potentially harmful chemicals, scientists have suggested.

Experts from Texas A&M and Carnegie Mellon University have been conducting their own air quality tests using a mobile testing unit in East Palestine.

They said that if the chemicals persist at the current levels, it could cause long-term health issues for residents, the researchers warned.

The finding is in direct contrast to the US Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) ongoing assurance that the air quality in the area is safe.

While they said the findings are not necessarily an 'immediate health concern', they said repeated exposure over time could be damaging.

There are already warning signs among residents, including reports of altered voices and rashes that look like chemical burns.

Dr Albert Presto is an associate research professor of mechanical engineering at Carnegie Mellon’s Wilton E. Scott Institute for Energy Innovation who is part of the university’s chemical monitoring effort in East Palestine.

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I wonder when we'll find that the Governor of Ohio drank polluted water too...

When the EPA (Yes the actual EPA) spilled toxic chemicals into the Animas river from a mine in Colorado they didn't clean up after themselves, Obama even said they "should" but would not, because they were "not required" to do so. They didn't even pay for it. I'm beginning to notice that the EPA doesn't do what it says it does. Protecting the Environment is not part of their function apparently, they provide cover for the government from responsibility when they cause environmental disasters, in no way do they seem to "Protect the Environment."
 
Damocles said:
When the EPA (Yes the actual EPA) spilled toxic chemicals into the Animas river from a mine in Colorado they didn't clean up after themselves, Obama even said they "should" but would not, because they were "not required" to do so.
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The EPA didn't spill toxic chemicals into the Animas river, what happened was the dam that was holding back all the toxic water and waste produced by Gold King mine was accidentally breached, and that's what caused the toxic chemicals to flow downstream. Had the Gold King mine done a better job of getting rid of its waste, this wouldn't have happened.

They didn't even pay for it.
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New Mexico reaches $32M settlement over 2015 Gold King mine spill that polluted Colorado water
https://www.cpr.org/2022/06/17/new-mexico-settlement-over-2015-gold-king-mine-spill/

Under a proposed settlement deal filed in Albuquerque federal court that the Department of Justice announced on Friday, the companies will together pay $40.9 million to the United States and $4 million to Colorado to clean up the Bonita Peak Mining District Superfund site. The EPA, the departments of the Interior and Agriculture will, for their part, make a payment of $45 million toward the cleanup under the deal.

Begaye says the EPA has distributed claim forms at public hearings across the Navajo Reservation and urged tribal members to sign them.

The Navajo Nation then committed $20M to a new water treatment facility to provide drinking water to 19,000 people, with the federal government kicking in a share from the Build Back Better bill that you opposed in 2022.
 
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It's a shame the Republican Governor utterly failed the citizens of East Palestine. Typical GOP.
 
LV426 said:
The EPA didn't spill toxic chemicals into the Animas river, what happened was the dam that was holding back all the toxic water and waste produced by Gold King mine was accidentally breached, and that's what caused the toxic chemicals to flow downstream. Had the Gold King mine done a better job of getting rid of its waste, this wouldn't have happened.



Begaye says the EPA has distributed claim forms at public hearings across the Navajo Reservation and urged tribal members to sign them.

The Navajo Nation then committed $20M to a new water treatment facility to provide drinking water to 19,000 people, with the federal government kicking in a share from the Build Back Better bill that you opposed in 2022.
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The EPA triggered the spill into the Animas river. Stop trying to apologize for this toxic "agency" that is supposed to protect the frikin' environment. Giving the Navajo Nation some money to treat water after they poisoned their water supply did NOT pay for the cleanup you idiot.

(I know I am again responding to an idiot who cannot absorb new information, I will regret this).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gold-k...PA-led contractor crew,the potential to do so.

from the story linked above said:
An EPA-led contractor crew triggered the spill while doing exploratory excavation work at the mine entrance in advance of a possible cleanup. The Gold King is one of hundreds of inactive mines in the Colorado mountains that continuously spew polluted water into rivers or have the potential to do so.
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In this story the Navajo Nation had to sue to get them to pay for that much, and they refused to pay the amount to clean it up after their team literally caused the spill.

Stop being such a stupid apologist. They would not pay, and refused to do so because the law did "not require" it. You have to stop pretending that your "leaders" are competent and kind. Government sucks even when democrats run it (in fact, especially so).
 
Concart said:
It's a shame the Republican Governor utterly failed the citizens of East Palestine. Typical GOP.
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Ohio:

GOP Governor
GOP State Senate
GOP State House
Voted GOP in 2020
Voted GOP in 2022
Accident occurred in GOP county
CEO of rail company is a major GOP donor
GOP Governor refused FEMA for two weeks
GOP Governor order the burning of the chemicals
GOP Governor then demanded FEMA help after denying FEMA for two weeks

But somehow it's Democrats' fault?
 
Damocles said:
The EPA triggered the spill into the Animas river.
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Right, it was an accident.

Had the Gold King mine not produced all that waste, this would not have happened.


Stop trying to apologize for this toxic "agency" that is supposed to protect the frikin' environment.
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I'm not apologizing for them, grow the fuck up.


Giving the Navajo Nation some money to treat water after they poisoned their water supply did NOT pay for the cleanup you idiot.
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Hey you stupid, lazy, goddamn fucking asshole, the Navajo Nation was given that money as part of the $32M settlement the federal government reached with New Mexico over this accident.

You didn't seem to even know about that, and the reason is because you're a fucking fascist piece of shit that has to lie in order to make a point on JPP.
 
Damocles said:
In this story the Navajo Nation had to sue to get them to pay for that much, and they refused to pay the amount to clean it up after their team literally caused the spill.
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What story are you talking about? The CBS link doesn't say any of that.

And it doesn't matter because New Mexico reached a settlement with the federal government for $32M.
 
"It was an accident" doesn't change what I stated was accurate, then you stupidly, as you always do, repeatedly and inaccurately tried to apologize for the government "agency" who caused the frickin' spill. When they spill something they need to do better.

Much like in East Palestine when they recommend to burn a toxic chemical they need to do better for the people that live nearby. At some point, even you have to realize that this agency f*cked up, and that they do not seem to actually do anything for the thing they are supposed to be protecting...
 
Damocles said:
Stop being such a stupid apologist.
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Stop making shit up.

Stop misrepresenting.

Stop posting sloppy, half-researched bullshit.


They would not pay, and refused to do so because the law did "not require" it.
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They did in fact pay $32M in a settlement agreement.

First you said they didn't pay anything, and then you moved the goalposts to say that they had to be sued to pay, and now you're gonna move the goalposts again since you've learned that the federal government reached a settlement with New Mexico.
 
Damocles said:
You have to stop pretending that your "leaders" are competent and kind.
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Straw man.


Damocles said:
Government sucks even when democrats run it (in fact, especially so)
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Accidents happen all the time...like the accident you made by allowing Nazis to run amok on your message board for two months after the 2020 election.

Accidents seem to happen way more when Conservatives are in charge, and the 1M dead from COVID is the proof of that.
 
Damocles said:
"It was an accident" doesn't change what I stated was accurate
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It actually totally does because you were presenting this as if the federal government maliciously released the toxic chemicals produced by the Gold King mine.

When you learned it was an accident, that changed how YOU decided to approach the whole thing.

So what happened was that you hastily blurted out a half-assed response, then scrambled to retcon it because of your mistaken insistence that the federal government didn't "pay for it".

You're not a very honest person, and you leave out crucial details because of how they affect your argument and how they affect your persona.
 
Damocles said:
"It was an accident" doesn't change what I stated was accurate, then you stupidly, as you always do, repeatedly and inaccurately tried to apologize for the government "agency" who caused the frickin' spill.
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An accident happened, so what do you want? They reached a settlement with the government to clean it up. This is an example of government working to correct its mistakes, which isn't something you do yourself when you make mistakes.

When you make mistakes, you blame it on other people.
 
Damocles said:
Much like in East Palestine when they recommend to burn a toxic chemical they need to do better for the people that live nearby
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That's not even close to what happened with the Gold King mine. So you're trying to make a connection, but you can't because no connection exists.

No one ordered the toxic water to be burned in Gold King, but DeWine ordered it in Ohio.


. At some point, even you have to realize that this agency f*cked up, and that they do not seem to actually do anything for the thing they are supposed to be protecting.
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I have said no less than 6 times that they caused an accident, but what you're not talking about is the presence of those toxic chemicals that were there in the first place.
 
Damocles said:
"It was an accident" doesn't change what I stated was accurate, then you stupidly, as you always do, repeatedly and inaccurately tried to apologize for the government "agency" who caused the frickin' spill. When they spill something they need to do better.

Much like in East Palestine when they recommend to burn a toxic chemical they need to do better for the people that live nearby. At some point, even you have to realize that this agency f*cked up, and that they do not seem to actually do anything for the thing they are supposed to be protecting...
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The EPA did not recommend the burn. That is false. It was the company and local officials.
 
Not quite the narrative the British tabloid is framing, in fact, essentially, the Gov’t and study’s findings are fairly similar, if the chemicals remain in the air over a long period of time they may cause health concerns, but, both reviews don’t feel they will persist over time
 
Find it interesting with the train derailment how the right has reframed a private company’s railroad crashing due to faulty equipment, that could have been technical updated, on their own traintracks, as Biden’s fault
 
LV426 said:
Ohio:

GOP Governor
GOP State Senate
GOP State House
Voted GOP in 2020
Voted GOP in 2022
Accident occurred in GOP county
CEO of rail company is a major GOP donor
GOP Governor refused FEMA for two weeks
GOP Governor order the burning of the chemicals
GOP Governor then demanded FEMA help after denying FEMA for two weeks

But somehow it's Democrats' fault?
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