Young Americans for Liberty - Berlin Wall Event

Adam Weinberg

Adam Weinberg

Goldwater Republican
Don't know how much I've said about this around here, but since last year I've done some work trying to help Young Americans for Liberty get its foundation on some college campuses.

http://www.yaliberty.org

This is the new youth-based movement for libertarians, limited government conservatives, classical liberals, and basically anyone who gravitates to a liberty-oriented issue that YAL might stand for.

The goal is not just to balance leftist campuses so there are outlets and resources for free market, limited government ideas, though that is one of them.

This is the means that I hope will generate some of our future leaders, so that in 10-15 years we can see people in elected leadership, science, art, literature, academia, who were alumni of YAL, remain true to the ideas of liberty, and take advantage of the enlightenment and leadership development this group offers to make that kind of difference in our country.

Thought I would share this video with you of an event I assisted some students with since it marks the occasion of a very important day in world history:

 
Liberty and conservatism are irreconcilable contradictions. The longer America remains in the stranglehold of the conservative/libertarian grasp, the longer we labor under totalitarianism.
 
There are two kinds of libertarianism: libertarian socialism, which is unrepresented in American government, and libertarian fascism, which has had total control over American society for the past thirty years, controlling both of the parties in our dual-conservative party system.
 
Adam Weinberg said:
Don't know how much I've said about this around here, but since last year I've done some work trying to help Young Americans for Liberty get its foundation on some college campuses.

http://www.yaliberty.org

This is the new youth-based movement for libertarians, limited government conservatives, classical liberals, and basically anyone who gravitates to a liberty-oriented issue that YAL might stand for.

The goal is not just to balance leftist campuses so there are outlets and resources for free market, limited government ideas, though that is one of them.

This is the means that I hope will generate some of our future leaders, so that in 10-15 years we can see people in elected leadership, science, art, literature, academia, who were alumni of YAL, remain true to the ideas of liberty, and take advantage of the enlightenment and leadership development this group offers to make that kind of difference in our country.

Thought I would share this video with you of an event I assisted some students with since it marks the occasion of a very important day in world history:

YouTube- San Marcos YAL Exposes 21st Century Marxism
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Awesome goal Adam, I may even join (If I ever decide to go to college).
 
adam over the years our brains have learned to avoid long paragraphed posts, mostly because they usually contained dixie's idiocy. We are now much more to the point. tldr etc

signed
everyone
 
Aw, c'mon. Since I often separate out the sentences for rhetorical effect, my paragraphs are almost overly short most of the time.

...There's just more of them than those of you with 10 billion posts!

Besides that, Dixie's threads are practically legendary here , so it's not a bad act to follow!

And Cap'n, you don't need to be a college student to join YAL. You can be a dues paying member if you're under 39, and YAL will send you some goodies like their awesome pocket Constitution and other stuff.
 
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Liberty and conservatism are irreconcilable contradictions. The longer America remains in the stranglehold of the conservative/libertarian grasp, the longer we labor under totalitarianism.
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This doesn't make any sense. This country has never suffered under totalitarianism, though we sure as hell have a government that seems like it wants to get there sometimes.

What would you define as conservatism, anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

If conservatism in the most general sense is the idea that we should preserve established traditions about the way the government was founded to work in this country, then that makes me some kind of a conservative.
 
How anyone can think unfettered markets are the answer to our problems in light of history is just unbelievable.

I think you need to try some other place besides college to pass these ideas off to people. Try a place where fewer people know about history.
 
evince said:
How anyone can think unfettered markets are the answer to our problems in light of history is just unbelievable.

I think you need to try some other place besides college to pass these ideas off to people. Try a place where fewer people know about history.
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Desh, you must be kidding.

Have you ever worked on a college campus? Do you think because kids are in college they are therefore instantly endowed with superior knowledge about politics, history, economics, and civil liberties?

Silly me and these youngins for thinking that perhaps the point of college is to educate them, develop career aspirations and experiences for future leadership and teamwork, and allowing students to expand the marketplace of ideas while becoming better actors in the future of civilization.

I guess you're right, we should only let leftist groups be active on college campuses, since clearly they have a better command of history in your view.

It's disappointing to me that you can't even approve of some kids reminding other students about the horrors of Communism. Do you even think all kids who go to college get a well-rounded education related to civics, history and diverse political philosophy?

Most of these kids haven't even read the Constitution or don't know what it means. What kind of history will our country write with trends like this?

I might add in all the times I have spent on campuses, and they include major and prestigious ones like University of Michigan, Michigan State, and University of Southern California that is it almost universally the conservative and libertarian student groups that have advocated for and defended constitutional government in all forms at the college level.

In regards to this particular event, many of the students were not only not alive during the era in which the Communists were around, they have not been educated about what the Commies promised to their people in exchange for their liberty, and how that temptation remains in our country to this day.
 
Do you think there is a place where more of them have some knowledge of history?

I think you fail to see many of them are trying to avoid you and use many ways to do that including playing disinterested and uninformed.

When the christians would try to recruit me in college I would often tell them I was some other religion and would have never told them I was an atheist.
 
evince said:
Do you think there is a place where more of them have some knowledge of history?

I think you fail to see many of them are trying to avoid you and use many ways to do that including playing disinterested and uninformed.

When the christians would try to recruit me in college I would often tell them I was some other religion and would have never told them I was an atheist.
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I don't fail to see anything. Young Americans for Liberty has been wildly successful leveraging the movement that came out of the Ron Paul campaign to build a bigger force for the ideas of liberty in youth-based organization.

The kind of thing you said could apply to any kind of student organization, but you particularly relish in it because they advocate for ideas you disagree with.

I'm not a religious leader and I'm not seeking converts.

This is a resource for students who agree. Those students got together and decided to express their views to the other students, and in the process they found more people who agree, and they can help them organize and represent their ideas. And if more people are identified who agree or learn about it from these programs and then agree, they can get involved.

Do you think I care that people might disagree with these students? I only care that people I agree with are better prepared to make a difference in the country than people I disagree with. If you disagree but make no difference, you're actually doing us a favor, just like I would be doing you a favor to not assist YAL.

You don't need to be a majority to make a difference in the country. You just need to know how to organize and move majorities of the people who care and show up in your direction.
 
Adam I really do like you but hell yes you are looking for converts and every ksingle person you approach knows this.

History has proven that without government ( the people) to intervien the monied interests will expoilt them.

That is why libertarianism has no chance of gaining any real ground.
 
evince said:
Adam I really do like you but hell yes you are looking for converts and every ksingle person you approach knows this.

History has proven that without government ( the people) to intervien the monied interests will expoilt them.

That is why libertarianism has no chance of gaining any real ground.
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See Adam this is perfect example of (willful or not) ignorance people have about Libertarianism. To promote individual liberty and freedom does not equate to promoting anarchy.

I think what you're doing is great man. I doubt that you would but please don't let some old partisans try and tell you to stop you.
 
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You don't need to be a majority to make a difference in the country. You just need to know how to organize and move majorities of the people who care and show up in your direction.
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That is exactly right! It's why the TEA party's have been successful as well. With a nation that is still center right, any group that organizes center right to move the majority will have influence~~~
 
evince said:
Adam I really do like you but hell yes you are looking for converts and every ksingle person you approach knows this.

History has proven that without government ( the people) to intervien the monied interests will expoilt them.

That is why libertarianism has no chance of gaining any real ground.
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Thanks, I like you too!

But being Jewish I don't think converting people has ever really appealed to me. People have to make the decision for themselves and all I do is make resources available for people who have made the decision already.

Trying to convert people outright would also be a waste of my time. I would much rather resource people who already know what they are getting themselves into and as a consequence of their action, more people will come along.

2 students who know who they are and where they come from can be better than 20 who are just on the bandwagon.
 
There is no other reason to have a party than to effect legislation. The party you support will never effect legislation because of the history of man. History has already repetedly proved the ideas Libertarians espouse as failed ideas.
 
evince said:
There is no other reason to have a party than to effect legislation. The party you support will never effect legislation because of the history of man. History has already repetedly proved the ideas Libertarians espouse as failed ideas.
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I'm a Republican.
 
Goldwater republicans may own the R party soon but be such a small party they wont have any luck at getting elected ,much like the new TeaBag party.
 
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