Not a single one because my "claim" is that spending was cut in some areas but increased in others.
The link proves that.
So I'm still waiting for any kind of evidence that indicates cutting taxes leads to increased savings.
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Not a single one because my "claim" is that spending was cut in some areas but increased in others.
The link proves that.
So I'm still waiting for any kind of evidence that indicates cutting taxes leads to increased savings.
In the mid 1950s education spending began a rapid increase, from a low of 2.6 percent in 1953. Education spending peaked at 5.7 percent in 1976
In 2022 education spending was 7.1 percent GDP.
you are lying again.
Remember my link - stop looking at pretty pictures and read!
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/education_spending
It was down in the original metric you used...and then when you realized that, you shifted your goalposts to gross dollars and tried to get me outraged at those.
But I don't care about gross dollars, and neither should you since they have nothing to do with your dogma.
Again, you running away from your dissonance is a dismissal but it's not the kind of dismissal you think.
The message you're sending isn't that you've won anything, it's that you've lost quite a lot and your ego is suffering from it.
So you "dismiss" it in order to avoid it.
dollars are what we are discussing - inflation adjusted dollars. you said it went down.
I never said that either.
What I said was that tax cuts are almost always made up for with cuts to social spending...and you helped me make that argument by posting the %-to-GDP for education spending.
Only after you realized you got it backwards did you suddenly start caring about gross dollars.
I am not running away from a thing. I just find you to be a bore and a waste of time
I reply so others see through your bullshit
In the mid 1950s education spending began a rapid increase, from a low of 2.6 percent in 1953. Education spending peaked at 5.7 percent in 1976
In 2022 education spending was 7.1 percent GDP.
you are lying again.
Remember my link - stop looking at pretty pictures and read!
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/education_spending
spending is up. we are not cutting spending . that is a lie
So now you're going to argue that they're mutually exclusive????
How can that be the case when you just got done saying earlier that "letting you keep more of what you earned" will affect the personal savings rate???
Or are you now going to say that the personal savings rate has nothing to do with the tax rates??? If that's the case, then why are you even making an argument for tax cuts? You have nothing to show for them!
You're really bad at this.
You create all these conflicts within your own argument for no good reason...
The economy is more than just you, you know.
You keep pushing your dogma out here but the problem is that the data doesn't support you.
So until you can get the data to support your argument that cutting taxes increases personal savings, you're going to keep making arguments that are easily beaten back by invoking the data you shared.
Do you realize that?
I did not say that.
I said I will take home more money if you cut taxes.
it is axiomatic moron
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for my savings to deplete, it is not because I took more money home, it is because I spent more then I took home. quite simple for a non-retard Those are two seperate activiies.
earnings and spending. and they are not joined at the hip
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So there's no path to seeing how tax cuts fit in here.
They don't incentivize anyone, you just confirmed it here.
So you think tax cuts are an incentive to save but you won't explain how.
What incentives are you talking about?
You do this all the time...you speak very vaguely and generally and then whenever anyone attempts to clarify, you get touchy, shrill, and defensive.
"incentives"...jesus fucking christ.
You're looking for incentives but you're ignoring the data.
Turns out that when you "give people more of what they earned", those people end up in debt.
It's YOUR CLAIM that we are spending less on education because you provided data that showed exactly that!
I didn't bring any of that up, YOU DID.
You ran your big mouth and now that you put your foot in it, are trying to change the parameters of what you meant after the fact.
Had you been accurate from the beginning, this conversation would probably go a different way.
But you have this compulsion that you can't control, so you have to spend all your time convincing yourself that you're "winning".
The data I proved shows conclusively that it skyrocketed
from 2k per child in 1960 to 20k per child in 2020
In terms of gross dollars, but not as a percentage of GDP.
So you can have your very low standard argument if you want, but you and I both know it's intellectually dishonest.
You proved gross spending on education grew, but you also proved that education spending as a percentage of GDP declined.
I can always tell when one of my attacks really hits home because you all start using them against me.
But the problem is that you're not very original by doing that, and it speaks to your inability to confront the things about your personal beliefs that result in dissonance.
The only loser is the guy who posted evidence showing education spending being cut while arguing it wasn't.
OMFG...that is what I've been saying this entire time that you have been disagreeing with because you take things so personally on JPP.
It didn't take that long for you to eventually take the position you were arguing against.
You're all backwards and confused...I am convinced you don't even know what you're saying anymore.
You're just reacting to things I post because you can't form any kind of argument since you have nothing to support it.
What is education spending for 2023? And what was education spending for 2021?
So you're magnifying a one time boost that is surrounded on both sides by lower numbers.
This is what you have been reduced to now.
NOW...you weren't discussing those earlier.
You only started talking about gross dollars when you realized the %/GDP metric didn't help your argument.
YOU SAID it went down in the data you gave me.