“Three weeks and 39 mass shootings. This is America in 2023”

archives said:
Ah, little help for you “pp,” urban areas are where the majority of people live, ain’t a whole lot gun violence happening in the vacant fields of Wyoming
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so we all agree that the blue areas are not run as well as the red areas.........is there anything else you would like to discuss?.......
 
in summary, if you put a lot of people in one place and restrict their access to guns in increases the likelihood that one of them will kill lots of them.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
yes.....wasn't relevant to the issue of the 39 mass shootings this year......it included accidental deaths and suicides......
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And suicides don't count for you?

your petition has been considered and rejected, because you have your head up your ass........
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PostmodernProphet said:
not as mass shootings, no.....do they for you?.....I also don't include auto accidents as mass shootings......do you think we should.....
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So long as you limit (this is called "windowing" in data science, it's a special form of cherry picking) data so it proves your point of course that makes sense. But if you consider all loss of life due to guns a problem then your point fails.

But I understand, you don't like people and your war on God makes you kind of cold and uncaring and I'm sure suicides are beneath your care.

no, Dutch Uncle, you poorly trained photoshopping sock, you can't.....
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You are wrong. There. Now when you repeat this it will be a LIE. :)
 
archives said:
“ Three weeks and 39 mass shootings. This is America in 2023”

“There are about 393 million privately owned firearms in the US. That’s 120 guns for every 100 Americans. 45% of US adults say they live in a household with a gun, according to an October 2022 Gallup survey.“

“Firearm injuries are now the leading cause of death among people younger than 24 in the United States. From 2015 through 2020, there were at least 2,070 unintentional shootings by children under 18 in the US. Those shootings resulted in 765 deaths and 1,366 injuries.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/mass-shootings-in-2023-what-matters/index.html

“Tragedy upon tragedy’: why 39 US mass shootings already this year is just the start”

“There are more guns in the US than people, according to a 2018 Small Arms Survey report, which found the country had the highest rate of firearm ownership in the world, and more than double the next country on the list, Yemen.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...shootings-already-this-year-is-just-the-start

“2023 Off To Historically Fast Start For Mass Shootings”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...o-historically-fast-start-for-mass-shootings/

”More mass shootings than days of the year: The grim reality of gun violence in the US“.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainer...ifornia-death-toll-gun-violence-12034902.html

And the right keep telling us the solution is even guns are necessary
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All in the SDTC, where guns are heavily restricted.

Gun free zones don't work.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
IMO, it's untreated mental illness. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans care to address the increasing lack of mental health care in America. They only want to ban shit and assert more control over the US population.

https://www.mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america
2023 Key Findings
  • In 2019-2020, 20.78% of adults were experiencing a mental illness. That is equivalent to over 50 million Americans.
  • The vast majority of individuals with a substance use disorder in the U.S. are not receiving treatment. 15.35% of adults had a substance use disorder in the past year. Of them, 93.5% did not receive any form of treatment.
  • Millions of adults in the U.S. experience serious thoughts of suicide, with the highest rate among multiracial individuals. The percentage of adults reporting serious thoughts of suicide is 4.84%, totaling over 12.1 million individuals. 11% of adults who identified with two or more races reported serious thoughts of suicide in 2020 – 6% higher than the average among all adults.
  • Over 1 in 10 youth in the U.S. are experiencing depression that is severely impairing their ability to function at school or work, at home, with family, or in their social life. 16.39% of youth (age 12-17) report suffering from at least one major depressive episode (MDE) in the past year. 11.5% of youth (over 2.7 million youth) are experiencing severe major depression.
  • Over half (54.7%) of adults with a mental illness do not receive treatment, totaling over 28 million individuals. Even in Montana (ranked #1), over 4 in 10 adults with a mental illness did not receive care.
  • Almost a third (28.2%) of all adults with a mental illness reported that they were not able to receive the treatment they needed. 42% of adults with AMI reported they were unable to receive necessary care because they could not afford it.
  • 10.8% (over 5.5 million) of adults with a mental illness are uninsured. Hispanic adults with AMI were least likely to have health insurance, with 19% reporting they were not covered by insurance.
  • 6.34% of youth in the U.S. reported a substance use disorder in the past year. That is equivalent to over 1.5 million youth in the U.S. who meet the criteria for an illicit drug or alcohol use disorder.
  • 22.87% of adults who report experiencing 14 or more mentally unhealthy days each month were not able to see a doctor due to costs. In Georgia (ranked 51), over one-third of adults experiencing frequent mental distress are unable to afford a doctor’s visit.
  • 59.8% of youth with major depression do not receive any mental health treatment. Asian youth with major depression were least likely to receive specialty mental health care, with 78% reporting they did not receive mental health services in the past year. In South Carolina, the lowest ranking state, nearly 8 in 10 youth with depression do not receive care.
  • Nationally, only 28% of youth with severe depression receive some consistent treatment (7-25+ visits in a year). Most (57.3%) youth with severe depression do not receive any care.
  • Nationally, 1 in 10 youth who are covered under private insurance do not have coverage for mental or emotional difficulties – totaling over 1.2 million youth. In Arkansas (ranked 51), nearly one-quarter of youth with private insurance do not have coverage for mental health care.
  • Only .718 percent of students are identified with emotional disturbance for an individualized education program (IEP). IEPs, with sufficient resources for schools and teachers, are critical for ensuring that youth with disabilities can receive the individualized services, supports, and accommodations to succeed in a school setting.
  • In the U.S., there are an estimated 350 individuals for every one mental health provider. However, these figures may actually be an overestimate of active mental health professionals, as it may include providers who are no longer practicing or accepting new patients..
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Psychoquackery.
 
LV426 said:
There are mentally ill people in every other country, yet this is the only one where they can get a gun with ease.

So it's the guns, not mental illness.

And furthermore, to put out the cry for mental illness therapy while also opposing Medicare-for-All seems a bit like being the obstacle to solving the thing you are also complaining about, in this case it's mental illness.
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Pyschoquackery. Argument from randU fallacy.
 
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