"Intelligent design" creationism basically finished

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Abiogenesis is not even a theory.

as I recall, I have mentioned about seven times that abiogenesis is not a theory........thank you for repeating that.......
 
The question of how life began is no more mysterious than how particles began. Besides the stupid Goddidit.
Scientists can easily create quarks and electrons in particle accelerators because the quantum relationship between energy and matter is well understood.

A prokaryotic cell is infinitely more complex than a quark.

After eighty years of research, scientists have never spontaneously created cellular life from inert, prebiotic chemicals. Though some promising leads have been discovered.

That's what makes the abiogenesis hypothesis so bloody interesting. Scientists love unresolved questions.
 
Scientists can easily create quarks and electrons in particle accelerators because the quantum relationship between energy and matter is well understood.

A prokaryotic cell is infinitely more complex than a quark.

After eighty years of research, scientists have never spontaneously created cellular life from inert, prebiotic chemicals. Though some promising leads have been discovered.

That's what makes the abiogenesis hypothesis so bloody interesting. Scientists love unresolved questions.

There's something missing! Only Spirit can come from Spirit .I guess it's there's a parallel Spiritual universe connected through mankind with the Physical universe
 
Scientists can easily create quarks and electrons in particle accelerators because the quantum relationship between energy and matter is well understood.

A prokaryotic cell is infinitely more complex than a quark.

After eighty years of research, scientists have never spontaneously created cellular life from inert, prebiotic chemicals. Though some promising leads have been discovered.

That's what makes the abiogenesis hypothesis so bloody interesting. Scientists love unresolved questions.

Life is just a combination of particles. No need to worry about life, artificial intelligence answers that.
 
Life is just a combination of particles. No need to worry about life, artificial intelligence answers that.

A glass of water is just a combination of hydrogen and oxygen atoms.

The difference is life has a complex choreographed self organizing principle to it functioning to store, replicate, and transmit information.
 
Abiogenesis and the origin of life often triggers both the far right holy rollers and the far left militant atheists.

The holy roller wants to leverage unresolved questions about abiogenesis to claim it's proof of a divine hand in the origin of life.

Militant atheists want to utterly downplay and sweep under the rug that there might be any mystery to the origin of life.


Scientists love nothing more than mysteries and unresolved scientific questions, and they approach abiogenesis as a non-partisan and highly compelling area of research.
 
I don't have any veneer of certainty about how life emerged from prebiotic inert chemicals.

The answers are far from certain, and that is precisely what makes it such an interesting scientific question.

It actually didn't take billions of years for life to emerge from a prebiotic state. As best we can tell, the first cells emerged a few hundred million years after the heavy bombardment phase, only relatively shortly after Earth's environment became relatively stable.

The first complex multicellular creatures with hard parts and shells seem to have exploded onto the scene from single celled precursors in the span of only about 30 million years.

These spurts of biologic emergence is a vexing and endlessly interesting scientific question.

On the other tangent, I don't think the word complexity truly captures the intractable problem of abiogenesis. Inorganic and organic systems can have the properties of complexity.

What makes life peculiar is that even at the level of an individual cell we see self organization, a seemingly choreographed dance of organelles and parts, self reproduction, and an infinitely complex system of information transmission and replication. I still remember thinking in introductory biology and genetics classes that a single cell seems like a maddeningly complex and choreographed system of self organizing machinery.

That is what makes it so bloody fascinating, and such a fruitful avenue of scientific inquiry.

No science here...move along...move along...
 
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