"Intelligent design" creationism basically finished

I am not partial to anthrocentric words like watchmaker, deity, spirit. Its the same mistake the Medieval Church made, putting humans at the center of all reality.

I am probably one of the few on this board that will eschew absolute certainty and confess to ignorance.

I have no idea if there is some higher organizing principle underlying reality

Or whether there is just an inert mathematical scaffolding our minds can access and which explains everything about the cosmos.
Follow the Steps and You'll Quit Kneeling

Slavish humans once thought that the wind was blown by a god. Then defiant humans discovered the laws of meteorology. It's the same way with every phenomenon—laws waiting to be discovered, taking away the imaginary Supreme Being's imaginary powers one by one, including creating the whole shebang and all its laws.
 
was just reading reports about big bang not as* empirical as was thought.
stuff like that happens all the time thanks to scientific process.
why one day they just might figure out how God did it.

All Is Lava

It was an eruption from another universe. The material that flowed in does not exist, as a whole, any more except at the undetectable edges of this universe. That material split up into matter, energy, light, and even space itself. The childishly named Big Bang cannot have taken place, because the Singularity preceding it is an impossible concentration. So is the childishly named Black Hole, which has to emit matter into still another universe.
 
All Is Lava

It was an eruption from another universe. The material that flowed in does not exist, as a whole, any more except at the undetectable edges of this universe. That material split up into matter, energy, light, and even space itself. The childishly named Big Bang cannot have taken place, because the Singularity preceding it is an impossible concentration. So is the childishly named Black Hole, which has to emit matter into still another universe.

Wow, you are smarter than every physicist!
 
After creationism was shot down by the courts, ID was evangelical Christianity's next attempt to sneak creationism into science education via the Trojan horse of ID.

Thank you for the Info, ID is a new one for me.
 
Thank you for the Info, ID is a new one for me.

They are centuries if not thousands of years old arguments for God.

Design: There is order in the universe therefore only God could have done it.
Existence: The universe exists therefore God must have caused it.
Mind: There is conscious thought therefore God is that consciousness.
 
They are centuries if not thousands of years old arguments for God.

Design: There is order in the universe therefore only God could have done it.
Existence: The universe exists therefore God must have caused it.
Mind: There is conscious thought therefore God is that consciousness.

What did God do to you, to have such a hard on over?
 
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