"Intelligent design" creationism basically finished

[AProudLefty]

I'm sorry you didn't understand......we are talking about hypotheses of origin.......evolution does not speak to origin.......

The Big Bang theory is falsifiable.

 

[Cypress]

It exists because that is the nature of existence


The things that make up the physical world is the nature of existence


It was never CREATED it just is what is


If there is a “controller”


Who created the “controller”


You can’t get away from the “just the nature of existence” by dreaming up a “controller”

To be honest, it exists because that is the nature of existence isn't very scientifically or philosophically satisfying, at least to me.

All we can do is speculate about the origin of the physical laws, the mathmatical scaffolding of the universe, the fine tuning of the cosmos.

One possibility is the organization, complexity, and life giving properties of the universe just happened despite it's statistical implausibility, and the origin of the cosmos was a quantum fluctuation.

Another possibility is that there is a higher organizing principle underlying the cosmos, something beyond our simian brain's ability to fathom.

Another possibility is that the physical constants can take different values, and reality is comprised of a multiverse, and the universe we live in just happened to be finely tuned for organization, complexity, life.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

sorry if you are still enslaved to modernism........I don't really give a fuck though.......if you are confused its because you're an idiot......

Well, you write like you have brain damage.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The problem is what is intelligence? Whose intelligence? What kind?

why is that a problem?......because it contradicts what you want to believe?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Why teach it in school?

because children in school have a tendency to ask......

 

[BidenPresident]

I'm sorry those two simple words confused you......

You are an uneducated buffoon.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The Big Bang theory is falsifiable.

intelligent design believes in the Big Bang........it describes the designer as the trigger.......

 

[BidenPresident]

Well, you write like you have brain damage.

A person writing like a second grader has the mind of a second grader.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Well, you write like you have brain damage.

/shrugs.......if you had difficulty understanding "as intended" you read like you have brain damage......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You are an uneducated buffoon.

it baffles me why you cunts can't just respond to the issues instead of going off on personal attacks.......why not answer the fucking questions.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

A person writing like a second grader has the mind of a second grader.

a clear sign you have no answers to the debate......if true, simply leave.....

 

[AProudLefty]

intelligent design believes in the Big Bang........it describes the designer as the trigger.......

The Big Bang theory does not need a designer, just like evolution does not need the origin of the universe.

 

[AProudLefty]

why is that a problem?......because it contradicts what you want to believe?.....

No. The problem is that the intelligence is unknown.

 

[AProudLefty]

because children in school have a tendency to ask......

So ask a pastor or Sunday school teacher.

 

[BidenPresident]

The Big Bang theory does not need a designer, just like evolution does not need the origin of the universe.

Correct.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The Big Bang theory does not need a designer, just like evolution does not need the origin of the universe.

the question isn't what the Big Bang Theory needs........the question is whether it and intelligent design are mutually exclusive.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No. The problem is that the intelligence is unknown.

it doesn't need to be known to be true.....

 

[AProudLefty]

the question isn't what the Big Bang Theory needs........the question is whether it and intelligent design are mutually exclusive.......

So basically the "intelligence" guided the evolution of the universe?

 

[AProudLefty]

it doesn't need to be known to be true.....

If it is unknown, it can not be true or false. Only belief.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So ask a pastor or Sunday school teacher.

okay, so long as the children aren't told about other non scientific hypothesis.......the pastor or sunday school teacher can tell them about those as well.....