Why do Christians believe in Jesus when He's NOWHERE in the Hebrew Bible?

Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed 100%. I have not seen a single Trumper on this forum who has followed in the footsteps of Christ. They use Christianity as a shield, claim “we all sinners”, never show an ounce of redemption and continue to spread hate within minutes, if not seconds, of declaring they are Christians.

The nutjobs like Sybil, I can understand. They’re irrational. Stone and Pmp are not mental cases…even though I think Pmp may be slipping into some age-related dementia. Regardless, both know the difference between right and wrong yet willfully choose wrong.
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The preeminent Christian theologian Erasmus said the test of a true christian is whether they emulated the example of Jesus. Every MAGA on this board has not only failed that test, but failed it in spectacular fashion
 
Cypress said:
The preeminent Christian theologian Erasmus said the test of a true christian is whether they emulated the example of Jesus. Every MAGA on this board has not only failed that test, but failed it in spectacular fashion
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Such is the mighty power of America's ONE TRUE GOD: Mammon.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Of course you don't remember. Drinking will do that. lol

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?108124-Atheist-logic&p=2755851#post2755851

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?186757-Famous-Atheist&p=5019903#post5019903

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-Atheist-in-an-Argument&p=1037408#post1037408

You even posted in that last one. But yeah sure, you never. :laugh:
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lol....sorry if I forgot one post I made in 2012..........

I will admit though that the two you linked from 2017 and 2022 do balance out the two started here by atheists today......
 
If I were generally interested in getting the OP's question answered, I'd find some theology expert to ask.

JPP can't even sustain a good discussion about donuts.

I'm neutral on Jesus--he may have existed and even believed that he was the son of God--my lovely grandmothers thought so but neither of them went to college and probably wanted to believe.

I'm far from neutral on donuts, however, and you can't get much info on them over here, either.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why do atheists always feel compelled to start threads attacking Christian beliefs?........is it insecurity?.....
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I'm an atheist myself,
have no idea what religious beliefs have to do to help or hurt security,
don't think that many Christians adhere to the generally benevolent social ideas in the new testament,
couldn't give a fat fuck about alleged Christian beliefs until they threaten the laws of our land with their influence,
but my question is this:

Why would the Hebrew Bible be the determining factor as to whether or not Jesus of Nazareth (or Brooklyn Heights or wherever the hell he was from) existed?
 
Cypress said:
The preeminent Christian theologian Erasmus said the test of a true christian is whether they emulated the example of Jesus. Every MAGA on this board has not only failed that test, but failed it in spectacular fashion
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Worse, they do it almost daily.

I have never seen a MAGA conduct themselves in a Christian manner longer than the sentence where they claim to be one.
 
Cypress said:
I look at the ethical example Jesus exemplified as a high bar to clear. Most MAGAs will utterly fail at clearing the bar, just like most students in a college class will never attain an A+.
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Most humans will never achieve the goodness of Jesus. They are supposed to at least try, though. MAGATs don't even try. Just claiming to be Xtian is enough.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Most humans will never achieve the goodness of Jesus. They are supposed to at least try, though. MAGATs don't even try. Just claiming to be Xtian is enough.
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Agreed the MAGAts don’t even try. They wear Christianity as a mask to shield their malicious conduct.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Most humans will never achieve the goodness of Jesus. They are supposed to at least try, though. MAGATs don't even try. Just claiming to be Xtian is enough.
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It's actually hard to be a good Christian, good Muslim, good Buddhist.

JPP has always provided countless examples of complete failures of Christian piety.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I think the questions asks why Jesus wasn’t named in the Torah….prophecies rarely name the actual person who is being prophesied about. It’s always something like “a man will come from the wilderness” or, “a messiah will come from the House of David”. In the case of Jesus, some portions of the Gospels appear to be reengineered to fit the prophesy. His birth in Bethlehem was one. Another was his arrival into Jerusalem on a donkey, which was part of the prophesy. In that case, Jesus may have deliberately arrived in such a manner so as to fit the prophesy.
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Or, more likely, the Gospel writers wrote him that way and none of those things actually happened. Think Paul Bunyon.
 
Cypress said:
It's actually hard to be a good Christian, good Muslim, good Buddhist.

JPP has always provided countless examples of complete failures of Christian piety.
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Hard? Yes. As TOW pointed out, some clearly don’t even try. Trying and failing is notable. Especially if they keep trying. Giving up or, worse, deliberately going in the opposite direction is antithetical to their avowed beliefs. The latter fits all self-proclaimed Christian MAGAts to a T.
 
Phantasmal said:
Or, more likely, the Gospel writers wrote him that way and none of those things actually happened. Think Paul Bunyon.
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Anything to do with his birth, I agree. The events in Jerusalem are probably more factual. The podcast debated about his association with John the Baptist and debated the odd line that was tread by the baptism of Jesus. If Jesus was the Son of God, why did he need to have his sins washed away?

Another part that was brought up, especially about Mary Magdalene, and also brought up on the podcast about Theodora, was how taking the lowest of low and seeing them become a great Christian was a great selling point. It’s one reason why the story of Magdalene was conflated with the soon-to-be stoned prostitute since it created a greater leap for her to travel to become a Christian. In Theodora’s case, she was an underage sex slave who became a saint. Raising a person of such low birth to become a Saint was used as an example of what Christian piety could accomplish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodora_(wife_of_Justinian_I)
Theodora (/ˌθiːəˈdɔːrə/; Greek: Θεοδώρα; c. 500 – 28 June 548)[1] was Byzantine empress by marriage to emperor Justinian. She became empress upon Justinian's accession in 527 and was one of his chief advisers, albeit from humble origins. Along with her spouse, Theodora is a saint in the Eastern Orthodox Church and in the Oriental Orthodox Church, commemorated on 14 November and 28 June respectively.
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